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Post by Forum Admin on Jan 21, 2018 21:56:46 GMT
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Post by Tim on Jan 22, 2018 8:36:01 GMT
It depends on your opportunity costs. What is the cost of leaving it open? Maybe give crowdfunders the option of saying how long their pledge lasts and when more people drop off in a week than join you drop the concept?
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Post by Pietje Puk on Jan 22, 2018 10:51:33 GMT
I think 3 months would be a good time (starting from the moment it was released on the website). At least to evaluate. By then most people interested have pledged for sets. If it by then well advanced (stage 6-7) then there is a genuine interest. It would be good to make a call to all. Most likely some will then increase the numbers they pledged for or others will pledge for some sets. This could be enough.
I have pledged for 10 sets. This is to start and taken I will need lot's of money for the coming French and Austrians. But I would increase that if I knew there was a genuine interest, but not enough to go further and make these figures.
But if nothing much happens in the coming months, then there will be interest, but not enough.
I see you started in level 3, so that seems as a good start.
Many regards
Pieter
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Post by Graeme on Jan 22, 2018 11:39:47 GMT
At this time of year I think a lot of people have just got used to the idea that they can stop spending money for a while so don't be TOO quick to pull anything.
You said previous crowdfunders would run for 60 days. That's a reasonable starting point but if the pledges come in gradually why not keep it open for a while. On the other hand if there's zero interest after a month or two why not announce "if you want it tell us now or we'll bin it"?
The Landwehr progressed quite gradually I think that shows there was interest there but also a bit of resistance to crowdfunding.
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Post by Marc on Jan 22, 2018 13:51:30 GMT
3 months max, one month min
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Post by cpn on Jan 22, 2018 20:31:15 GMT
Good evening, To me a crowdfunding project includes deliverables as well, meaning that if the customer is actually funding it, it should expect a quick return on investment, a commitment on a due date from the beginning of the advertisement. This could help bringing more people to commit since they know when to expect for it. Along the same lines, you could establish phases such as: 1/ enough initial money for a Awi British line infantry marching 2/ more money then firing line 3/ command staff And so on. Have a nice evening. CPN
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Post by Alan Buckingham on Jan 22, 2018 21:13:18 GMT
My thoughts, are probably three months, people have more than toy soldiers to pay for, so they may be skint this month but not next for example. I think there could be more updates to keep both those supporting it updated and to pull in the wavering, to help them make their minds up to take the plunge , hell if any project were just a few boxes short of target I would support it even if it were not on my immediate wants list.
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Post by Peter on Jan 22, 2018 21:23:00 GMT
If you look at other kickstarter type crowd funding they have a preformed idea of what they are going to make,and more importantly a delivery date. This date doesn't always work out but at least at the start you have some idea of the time frame. None of us are getting any younger since most of us started collecting in the sixties!
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Post by ToneTW on Jan 23, 2018 0:13:09 GMT
As long as possible... sometimes takes a while to spot the project, decide how many we need and then gather the hobby funds!
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Post by richard on Jan 23, 2018 10:36:39 GMT
If you look at other kickstarter type crowd funding they have a preformed idea of what they are going to make,and more importantly a delivery date. This date doesn't always work out but at least at the start you have some idea of the time frame. None of us are getting any younger since most of us started collecting in the sixties! I agree with this. I won't financially back a project unless I have some idea to time scales so I can then plan what I'm doing/buying in the mean time. It's also quite difficult for some people (me included), to commit a large amount of money in one go. For some sets (such as AWI/SYW hint hint) I'd buy 10+ sets of each. But it would always be a struggle to pay for them all in one go as under normal circumstances I'd buy one at a time, paint them (badly) and then go buy the next set. That said, I do commend Hat for trying something different in order to create interest and generate demand. Would I crowd fund if it was the ONLY way of ever seeing some sets made (SYW British&French / AWI hint hint again...), reluctantly, YES. Either way, keep up the good work with new ideas, it's really interesting to follow.
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Post by Alan Buckingham on Jan 23, 2018 14:02:36 GMT
As an example the unmarried Zulu`s, I ultimately bought ten boxes, but not all at once , I think I topped up my order two or three times, but only paid postage on the original order, that worked for me, and it will probably be the model for me to funding any future crowdfund sets I want. A suggestion but recognize this may be tough to manage, would be pay one postage and support several crowdfunding projects simultaneously ,assuming several run simultaneously.
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Post by zirrian who forgot to log in on Jan 23, 2018 14:42:33 GMT
At least a 1.5 months because I plan to buy in with 6 boxes in March
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Post by Scottmarquardt on Jan 26, 2018 22:36:15 GMT
Six months.
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Post by waynew on Jan 27, 2018 2:52:38 GMT
No less than two months, I think, to give time for folks to learn, skull it out, budget, then take the plunge. There have been some good points made. On the other hand there are good arguments not to take too long to do your business and move on, so to speak. There comes a point when HaT can see the trickle of contributors grows to a flood and then ebbs back to a trickle and realizes the venture is either a "go" or not.
Several have mentioned having a "Time Scale" or projected completion date/time, I guess when the product will finally reach our hands. I believe establishing a set contribution time moves us a long way toward meeting that goal. I also think now that the trail has been blazed, so to speak, we can look forward to a shorter time from beginning to end of a project. Of course there are always those unforeseen events.
I don't know if this has been addressed or not, and if so, my apologies. But what are the possibilities of setting a date to determine whether the project is a go and then once the minimum amount has been reached to move the project ahead it might be possible to allow others to contribute? Perhaps there be something like extra bonus figures or special price for earlier investors as an incentive to get in on the ground floor?
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Post by warhorseminiatures.com on Feb 11, 2018 2:18:14 GMT
I would give it at least 2 to 3 months. The last time they had the crowdfunding for 1/32 scale figures, I was planning to get 10 sets and was going to pledge at the end of the month when I noticed the project. The project had ended before I could pledge. I try to check once a month to see what is going on with the hobby, but sometimes life gets in the way and I miss things. So 3 months should be a good guide of time for most projects. I just did a blog article about the 1/32 Austrians and posted it on some FB group pages, I hope it helps.
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Post by Forum Admin on Feb 11, 2018 3:00:31 GMT
The people have spoken... so far:
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