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Post by Forum Admin on Jan 31, 2019 8:59:54 GMT
First edition: Heavy Dragoons Light Dragoons No estimated date yet.
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Post by waynew on Feb 1, 2019 3:51:03 GMT
Bootiful! Simply Bootiful!
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Post by stevo0113 on Feb 1, 2019 13:24:22 GMT
These look really nice I cant wait to get my paintbrush on them hope their here soon.
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Post by Brian on Feb 1, 2019 23:49:01 GMT
Hi Hat team,
Good to see further progress however I do have some concerns on the Heavy Dragoons weapons the swords all seem a little short as does the spare arm carrying the musketoon hopefully this can be rectified.
The Light Dragoons look excellent.
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Post by endeavour on Feb 4, 2019 21:39:11 GMT
The light dragoon horses could also be used for a set of hussars ;0)
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Post by joe5790 on Feb 4, 2019 23:56:51 GMT
They look fine, though I don't know why but I've always preferred the models to be inside of a rectangular frame, rather than the offshoots from a central spine. It just looks untidy and I never get the feeling the models are safe in their boxes (though with such soft plastics that's an unfounded fear).
I've more than enough French, Swedish and Nassau troops to busy myself with that I'm not fussed on getting British units, so this set doesn't affect me. But they look great. Well done.
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Post by plasticpanzers on Feb 5, 2019 8:05:23 GMT
The swords for the Heavies look a bit short.
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Post by minuteman on Feb 5, 2019 15:12:46 GMT
The swords for the Heavies look a bit short. I agree, yes they do look too short. They really need to be as long as the original scans of the figures. Heavy cavalry with puny swords are always a disappointment.
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Post by Forum Admin on Feb 14, 2019 5:58:51 GMT
More pics: Light Dragoons Heavies
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Post by minuteman on Feb 14, 2019 16:34:58 GMT
Yep, those heavy dragoon swords just look much too short
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Boom boom out go the lights
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Post by Boom boom out go the lights on Feb 15, 2019 12:26:53 GMT
Have to agree those heavy dragoon swords look much too short.
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Post by plasticpanzers on Mar 6, 2019 3:44:02 GMT
The sword for the Heavies look a bit like swagger sticks.
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Post by mikem on Mar 7, 2019 10:07:42 GMT
The swords on the Heavies are too short! This has been noted for many weeks now, I wonder if HäT will make a comment? Will this problem be resolved? If not, then these otherwise fine figures will not find their way onto my want list!
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Post by Forum Admin on Mar 7, 2019 10:23:34 GMT
Yes. These are only initial shots. Other issues will be addressed as well. Thank you.
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Post by minuteman on Mar 7, 2019 10:56:47 GMT
Thanks Forum Admin, it's good to know that the short swords/swagger sticks currently carried by these gentleman will be addressed and, we hope, rectified. The swords need to be twice as long as they are in these test shots, slightly broader as well.
In their present state these heavy cavalrymen look less than threatening...indeed, were I a 1/72 French fusilier facing them, I wouldn't be at all scared! The worst I could expect would be for my shako to be knocked off with one of those 2 foot swagger sticks. Humiliating perhaps, but not dangerous.
You mention that other issues will be 'addresses' (I take this to mean 'addressed') as well. Are you able to advise what these issues are?
This set has the potential to be one of the best sets of British/KGL Napoleonic cavalry around in 1/72. However, it's important to get these issues sorted before they go to production.
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Post by Forum Admin on Mar 7, 2019 21:10:53 GMT
The design team is still looking into these test shots at the moment.
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Post by stevo0113 on Apr 12, 2019 17:44:51 GMT
Hi just wondering if progress has been made over this issue yet
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Post by Forum Admin on Apr 12, 2019 18:05:45 GMT
Some of the pieces are being recut.
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Post by Malcolm on Jun 3, 2019 7:45:27 GMT
It's been over a year since I put my money in the Crowd Funding for these figures believing that it would be a wait of 6 to 9 months and I am still waiting. Since your last message was 6 weeks ago I kindly ask for any update.
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Post by plasticpanzers on Jun 4, 2019 9:33:02 GMT
I thought perhaps the short swords for the heavies were butter knives to butter their scones to go with their tea.... (cough)
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Post by waynew on Jun 4, 2019 17:11:20 GMT
It's been over a year since I put my money in the Crowd Funding for these figures believing that it would be a wait of 6 to 9 months and I am still waiting. Since your last message was 6 weeks ago I kindly ask for any update. As one who is also heavily invested in this - and other sets - I can understand the impatience and frustration in waiting for these sets to come to fruition. I do believe HaT is operating - as it has always operated - in good faith. One of the things I see holding up progress on this and other sets is quality control. Time and again we have seen test shots presented on this site for comment and suggestion and time and again we have seen HaT go "Back to the Drawing Board" so to speak attempting to correct legitimate corrections - this is a time consuming process as HaT, unlike some of its competitors, has to operate literally across the Globe and with that across at least two vastly different languages and cultures which can lead to misunderstanding. This has led to multiple attempts to correct errors in figures and that, in turn leads to more delays. Excellence does take time and under these circumstances perhaps longer. I know from over twenty years of doing business with the folks at HaT and other correspondence that they take great pains to keep us informed - but sometimes there just isn't any news and I imagine that is as frustrating to them (probably more as it is THEIR livelihood and reputation on the line) as it is to us. I do believe the last news was the corrections have been sent back to the factory in China - I think the waiting process is now for them to either do what their told or ignore instructions, at which time the production will be delayed even more. It's frustrating, sure; but from what I know, the alternative is to try and find another factory which means starting EVERYTHING back from scratch again. That could take years. I guess when we DO finally get these guys in our hot, sweaty hands we'll appreciate them more.
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Post by Forum Admin on Jun 6, 2019 8:37:56 GMT
It's been over a year since I put my money in the Crowd Funding for these figures believing that it would be a wait of 6 to 9 months and I am still waiting. Since your last message was 6 weeks ago I kindly ask for any update. There was an issue with one of the molds and some of the figures are being redone.
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Post by Sarge on Jun 6, 2019 13:36:06 GMT
Many a year ago, when the topic of producing a kit of British Heavy Dragoons for the Peninsular campaign was first raised, I asked for some alternative heads wearing the popular watering cap, an idea that found general acclamation if my memory dosesn't fail me. Now, much to my surprise I find that on the sprues depicted there is no trace of such alternative heads. Is it possible to correct that yet? Toothpick swords are certainly the issue more problematic, heavies need massive swords, of course.
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Post by cpn on Jun 7, 2019 16:37:02 GMT
It's been over a year since I put my money in the Crowd Funding for these figures believing that it would be a wait of 6 to 9 months and I am still waiting. Since your last message was 6 weeks ago I kindly ask for any update. As one who is also heavily invested in this - and other sets - I can understand the impatience and frustration in waiting for these sets to come to fruition. I do believe HaT is operating - as it has always operated - in good faith. One of the things I see holding up progress on this and other sets is quality control. Time and again we have seen test shots presented on this site for comment and suggestion and time and again we have seen HaT go "Back to the Drawing Board" so to speak attempting to correct legitimate corrections - this is a time consuming process as HaT, unlike some of its competitors, has to operate literally across the Globe and with that across at least two vastly different languages and cultures which can lead to misunderstanding. This has led to multiple attempts to correct errors in figures and that, in turn leads to more delays. Excellence does take time and under these circumstances perhaps longer. I know from over twenty years of doing business with the folks at HaT and other correspondence that they take great pains to keep us informed - but sometimes there just isn't any news and I imagine that is as frustrating to them (probably more as it is THEIR livelihood and reputation on the line) as it is to us. I do believe the last news was the corrections have been sent back to the factory in China - I think the waiting process is now for them to either do what their told or ignore instructions, at which time the production will be delayed even more. It's frustrating, sure; but from what I know, the alternative is to try and find another factory which means starting EVERYTHING back from scratch again. That could take years. I guess when we DO finally get these guys in our hot, sweaty hands we'll appreciate them more. Good afternoon Waynew, I support the point in regards to HAT commitment to deliver the best figures ever. That said in that particular topic, we debate about a crowdfunding project where all committed and contributed. Some months ago I remembered HAT webpage stating that two lines of fabrication will run with one dedicated to such projects to go faster. It seems "no initial plans survives first contact with enemy " and I respect that. This statement has since disappeared. Now crowdfunding requires a bit more engagement and clear timelines because we send money. HAT is not a saving account so I need to be informed whether and when we will have that project delivered. Don't misunderstand me,I am a great fan of HAT but I think crowdfunding is not a valid way if you can't control the full chain of fabrication. I also still think maybe selfishly that to run several scales concurrently will not accelerate the pace of delivery. Eventually a lot of us are not young anymore so waiting 10 years for a proper British cavalry set or a great AWI range can really make a difference. Fortunately I discovered the joyce of converting figures to help me achiving units or armies. So happy to wait but this the last time for me for crowdfunding. This was my humble contribution to that topic. Enjoy your weekend. CPN
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Post by waynew on Jun 7, 2019 21:25:36 GMT
As one who is also heavily invested in this - and other sets - I can understand the impatience and frustration in waiting for these sets to come to fruition. I do believe HaT is operating - as it has always operated - in good faith. One of the things I see holding up progress on this and other sets is quality control. Time and again we have seen test shots presented on this site for comment and suggestion and time and again we have seen HaT go "Back to the Drawing Board" so to speak attempting to correct legitimate corrections - this is a time consuming process as HaT, unlike some of its competitors, has to operate literally across the Globe and with that across at least two vastly different languages and cultures which can lead to misunderstanding. This has led to multiple attempts to correct errors in figures and that, in turn leads to more delays. Excellence does take time and under these circumstances perhaps longer. I know from over twenty years of doing business with the folks at HaT and other correspondence that they take great pains to keep us informed - but sometimes there just isn't any news and I imagine that is as frustrating to them (probably more as it is THEIR livelihood and reputation on the line) as it is to us. I do believe the last news was the corrections have been sent back to the factory in China - I think the waiting process is now for them to either do what their told or ignore instructions, at which time the production will be delayed even more. It's frustrating, sure; but from what I know, the alternative is to try and find another factory which means starting EVERYTHING back from scratch again. That could take years. I guess when we DO finally get these guys in our hot, sweaty hands we'll appreciate them more. Good afternoon Waynew, I support the point in regards to HAT commitment to deliver the best figures ever. That said in that particular topic, we debate about a crowdfunding project where all committed and contributed. Some months ago I remembered HAT webpage stating that two lines of fabrication will run with one dedicated to such projects to go faster. It seems "no initial plans survives first contact with enemy " and I respect that. This statement has since disappeared. Now crowdfunding requires a bit more engagement and clear timelines because we send money. HAT is not a saving account so I need to be informed whether and when we will have that project delivered. Don't misunderstand me,I am a great fan of HAT but I think crowdfunding is not a valid way if you can't control the full chain of fabrication. I also still think maybe selfishly that to run several scales concurrently will not accelerate the pace of delivery. Eventually a lot of us are not young anymore so waiting 10 years for a proper British cavalry set or a great AWI range can really make a difference. Fortunately I discovered the joyce of converting figures to help me achiving units or armies. So happy to wait but this the last time for me for crowdfunding. This was my humble contribution to that topic. Enjoy your weekend. CPN As I said, I can understand your point of view.
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