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Post by zirrian on Jun 11, 2017 16:26:35 GMT
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I KNEW WE'LL NEVER GET PENINSULAR DRAGOONS FROM HAT! I called it, I saw it in the "next release" bunch, and said we'll never get them! I was bloody correct - and would be bloody happy about it, if I didn't wanted them.
But oh well, I'm happy I loaded up on early Prussian cavalrymen and Scots Greys so I can convert them for myself. Somehow I'll do the tarletons too for the light cavalry as well.
Highly disappointed. 10 years of promises, listing as the next release for more than a year I think, then this blunder. I appreciated what you've done for the hobby, but oh how the mighty have fallen.
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Post by Forum Admin on Jun 14, 2017 18:35:25 GMT
Dear Zirrian, we apologize for that. These two sets were made some time ago and the production team who made them are no longer with us. New people and new processes are in place to avoid that type of problem in the future. Thank you.
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Post by wmyers on Jun 14, 2017 22:58:08 GMT
I am happy to hear that more Hat 28mm figures will be coming out!
Especially for cavalry. The metal cavalry figures are an arm and a leg (all the weight and metal for the horses).
I have gravitated from 1/72 to 28mm over time and do the vast majority of my hobby now in that scale as most people who are serious game in that scale.
The 28mm El Cid muslim cavalry are excellent, to a certain extent.
The horses are the right sizes and the mounted figures are the proper height, but the heads are far too small. They have been great for cutting the heads off of and putting Gripping Beast Plastics extra heads on. In each box of GBP they have double the amount of arms you can use as well - not to mention torsos. The shields look way out of place on the Hat figures because they are so small in comparison to any other manufacturer so the cavalry can't be used right out of the box but the horses can and the figures can be modified (it would be nice if they did not have to be though ...)
However, the 28mm Hat Napoleonic figures that Hat released are very nice and match up quite well with others.
I can only hope these ones do, as well!
Please promote them on the various wargaming boards and send various sets out to the most prodigious blogs and websites to promote them!!! I for one, want to see a lot more sets in 28mm.
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Post by Edwardian on Oct 7, 2017 11:17:27 GMT
I share the disappointment of others with regard to the 1/72nd British Light and Heavy Dragoons.
A signal blow to my Peninsular ambitions!
I infer from what it was said that it is, for some reason, now not possible to manufacture them to the correct size.
Can we please ask HaT to consider producing these figures, and the French 1813-1815 command, with new masters if necessary.
If necessary these could be put to crowd funding.
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Post by Edwardian on Dec 28, 2017 19:52:35 GMT
My thanks to Steve of this parish, who has pointed out that HaT's website now lists these sets "to be remade": link
8307 Nap. British Light Dragoons To be remade.
8308 Nap. British Heavy Dragoons To be remade.
Well done, HaT!
Look forward to developments
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Post by traveller1865 on Dec 28, 2017 22:16:26 GMT
Good news!! So finally we have some cavarly for Tarleton's Legion, with some minor adjustments of course.
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Post by Edwardian on Dec 29, 2017 10:39:49 GMT
I am pleased. I had originally decided to convert some HaT Dutch Belgian cavalry to Spanish Cazadores (with HaT 1806 Prussian horses). Then, I thought, the British Peninsular Light Dragoons might be a better bet.
Even with the delay, at the rate I paint, the British Peninsular Light Dragoons might well be out in time!
More importantly, these will have many other uses and can be the basis for a number of conversions: British Light Dragoons, RHA troopers, French Chasseurs a Cheval, Revolutionary and Napoleonic Yeomanry, British cavalry in India, (as Traveller notes) Loyal American cavalry, etc, etc
As for the prospect of a charge by the heavies in the Peninsular - spectacular stuff!
Come on HaT, please do this!
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Post by steve on Dec 29, 2017 12:26:13 GMT
Yes Hat please do this hopefully as a priority, your loyal customers have spoken & its official it says it on the website to be remade it would be great if another word appeared at the end that's soon. Thanks again for agreeing to remake them cheers
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Post by Edwardian on Dec 31, 2017 18:09:56 GMT
The news that HaT are to r-make these sets in 1/72nd has, I confess, made me immensely happy. I hope they are accorded priority, but, as ever, the 'if' is more important than the 'when'. Unlike the 1812-1815 French Infantry Command, for which the masters were lost, I am guessing that the original masters for these cavalry sets can be re-used to create the 1/72nd sets. If so, this leaves the, rather expensive, task of producing new moulds. By way of eager anticipation, these are shots of the 28mm sets from the HaT main website. They are gorgeously painted, and aren't they just superb? Here's what we're missing: :
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Post by Edwardian on Dec 31, 2017 18:11:06 GMT
And the Lights:
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Post by Graeme on Jan 1, 2018 7:41:06 GMT
Great news about the Peninsular cavalries. Well done HaT!
And a Happy New Year to all.
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Post by traveller1865 on Jan 1, 2018 20:33:39 GMT
I'd say this is a major release within the 1/72 scale, two sets, one that can be used for the Napoleonic era and the other for both AWI and NW, two major conflicts in world history.
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Post by Ian Bruce on Jan 2, 2018 8:12:25 GMT
Great news on the Light Dragoons. Thanks, HaT.
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Post by Forum Admin on Jan 4, 2018 8:31:28 GMT
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Post by zirrian on Jan 8, 2018 19:46:37 GMT
I'm cautiously optimistic - please get it right HaT, these figures are the only ones I need for my Peninsular British army.
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Post by Marco Zappa on Jan 8, 2018 20:25:05 GMT
Hip hip hurra`!!!
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Post by Malcolm on Jan 8, 2018 21:29:47 GMT
With all the hullabaloo on the What Next Set thread I think that the Cloud Funding of the Peninsula War British Cavalry sets has gone almost unnoticed. I first need to take a look at how many regiments of each fought in the Peninsula before making my order. I am also studying the sprew composition to see how easy it will be to convert a few Light Dragoons into mounted Rocketeers.
I have not participated in previous Hat Cloud Funding campaigns. Can any one enlighten me on how long it takes before a successful project gets underway to the figures reaching the clients. In this case the Masters already exist and even the sprew layout is known, so that should dramatically shorten the wait. I would also like to know if there will be any "Bonus Figures" as in previous projects. If so dedicated Officer figures, especially for the Heavy Dragoons would be very welcome.
Best regards,
Malcolm
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Post by Forum Admin on Jan 9, 2018 0:57:27 GMT
Can any one enlighten me on how long it takes before a successful project gets underway to the figures reaching the clients. I would also like to know if there will be any "Bonus Figures" as in previous projects. Time: every set will be different and there is always the option to refund if it takes too long. Bonus figures: There will be bonus figures, to be decided and voted on.
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Post by waynew on Jan 9, 2018 3:31:38 GMT
I would think the process of crowd-funding will move along a bit speedier now that it has been experimented with, tried, and some of the kinks worked out. The next project(s) should be faster than the first and the next one after that even faster as corrections are made and the system is made more efficient. Just a thought.
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Post by Malcolm on Jan 9, 2018 18:52:32 GMT
After those two revealing answers paraphrased: 1st Hat Admin (the time taken to make a set is variable) and 2nd Wayne ( I think it will take less time this time and even less the next) I am just as enlightened. All I ask is a ball park figure. For those of you that funded the unmarried Zulus and the happily married Landwher, I ask again: from the green light of the crowd funding reaching its target how many months was it before you received your figures? And from Hat, this time what sought of time frame are we expecting: 6 months, a year, 2 years....
Best regards,
Malcolm
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Post by Forum Admin on Jan 9, 2018 19:58:14 GMT
The time for the first two crowdfunding products from start of project to finish was about 1 year. The unMarried Zulu mold was made twice in this timeframe.
It has been the practice of hat not to give estimated dates but stages of completion for their projects.
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Post by Malcolm on Jan 9, 2018 21:51:32 GMT
Thanks for the quick reply. I have more than enough painting to keep me busy in that sought of time period. I wanted a break from the 100 days campaign when you first released your Peninsula War British Infantry. Since then I have been collecting all the necessary sets, I even bought the Airfix Waterloo Farm House battle set in part to get hold of the British Hussars and the RHA to get a limber for your Rocket Troops. Now if in a not to distant future I can also convert your Light Dragoons into mounted Rocketeers I think an interesting diorama can be made. I also need to increase the number of Black Brunswickers. When you first released them I made the mistake of only buying one box of each, being a bit wary of how well such a dark uniform would look in this small scale.
Best regards,
Malcolm
Malcolm
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Post by Edwardian on Jan 12, 2018 18:24:52 GMT
This is excellent news. I have just ordered 11 boxes.
Now, where are my 10 boxes of Landwehr?!?
In HaT we trust.
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