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Post by theprofessor on Aug 24, 2021 11:45:51 GMT
I am working on a diorama for the battle of Islawanda.
I am looking to obtain lots of ox for my wagons (looking for 12-14 for each wagon), as well as cattle.
Would love for Hat to also produce: Naval Brigade
Natal Native Pioneers
Rocket Battery Royal Engineers
Army Hospital Corps & Medical Department
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Post by paintdog on Aug 24, 2021 12:51:09 GMT
I am working on a diorama for the battle of Islawanda.
I am looking to obtain lots of ox for my wagons (looking for 12-14 for each wagon), as well as cattle.
Would love for Hat to also produce: Naval Brigade
Natal Native Pioneers
Rocket Battery Royal Engineers
Army Hospital Corps & Medical Department
To get that many oxen, you're going to have to go metal.
I wanted 4 oxen per wagon -too few, I know but wargaming needs some simplicity- so I was able to acquire a dozen from John O'Wales:
As for the rest of your wish list, either look towards conversions, buy metal or wait for HaT to addess your needs.
Good luck, donald
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Post by waynew on Aug 24, 2021 18:29:50 GMT
A few years back we were kicking around the idea of a separate set of draft animals - horse, oxen, etc. to supplement the teams supplied. I still think it would be a great idea and good seller. Considering one could use animals already in production it might not be too complex to use old sculpts or molds. I'm not an expert on that.
I do know some time ago Imex issued sets of their horses both extra cavalry and draft horses to supplement their sets. These were in 1/32 (not aware if they were done in 1/72 scale but don't think so). These were well received because the teams in the ACW artillery sets were cast in the colors of their figures - blue or grey. The extra sets were cast in brown and black. I know I picked up several sets as the horses were excellent sculpts and usable for a lot of purposes and extra cavalry horses are always needed - particularly for horse holders.
Just bringing back an old idea.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 19:31:20 GMT
Thats a really nice Ox drawn wagon you have done there Donald.đź‘Ť
I agree with Wayne about spare draught animals for various era's.
Spare oxon & horses, which are detached from a train but being looked after by a members of a train team would be a nice set. A sort of " in camp" type set, of men looking after their animals. Whether that be men from artillery trains or cavalrymen from their regiments.
As for the rest of the list you request professor, Donald is right. Sure, by all means lobby HaT to make them, but it may be quicker in the long run to source elsewhere, like within metal figures, or conversions if you don't mind doing them.
By all means continue to ask around and see if someone will pick up the idea's you suggest. There are also some specialised 3D printing companys who will actually make personally requested figures too.
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Post by rodmacarthur on Aug 27, 2021 15:46:29 GMT
I solved the problem of extra oxen by using the plastic bulls which are attached to bottles of Spanish Sangre de Torro wine. They are 1:72 and come in various poses, but I make sure I pick bottles with usable ones (eg not lying down dead). I have over 100 of them, enough to have six per Anglo-Zulu Wagon, although I haven’t got around to making any of those up yet. I did use some to pull Medieval (Hundred Years War) artillery as can be seen here: rodwargaming.wordpress.com/ancients/medieval/I also used some to pull my Jacobite siege artillery, as can be seen here: rodwargaming.wordpress.com/2017/07/23/jacobite-siege-artillery/#more-5066I have many boxes of figures (mainly Hat) for my updated Anglo-Zulu War set up and must get around to it one day. I have cattle for my Jacobite Rebellion set up by using Atlantic “Stampede” figures, as can be seen here: rodwargaming.wordpress.com/2017/05/06/jacobite-logistics/#more-4588I could easily use those same oxen and cattle for the Anglo-Zulu War, Napoleonic Wars and Roman era. Rod |
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Post by bongman on Aug 27, 2021 16:45:35 GMT
What a wonderful idea! How many bottles did you have to drink to get 100 oxen?
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Post by rodmacarthur on Aug 28, 2021 6:42:48 GMT
100 bottles, and my wife does not drink red wine!!! It was over several years. I probably first discovered these little bulls more than 10 years ago. About 5 years ago, Torres stopped attaching them to their bottles, but a couple of years ago brought them back (in UK at least, although I have also seen them in Spain).
rod
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