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Post by Edwardian on Dec 15, 2017 7:55:16 GMT
I agree with the suggestion of staff officers as bonus figures, and, perhaps, a pioneer.
We rarely get staff figures.
Sized for the Revell Austrians, I would think.
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Post by paintdog on Dec 17, 2017 4:57:44 GMT
Apropos the size debate, here are some comparisons.
I primed them quickly for the photograph (managed to scrape some off our HaT Prussian!)
From left to right we have (1) Revell Austrian, (2) HaT Prussian, (3) Revell Prussian, (4) metal 1/72nd French, and, (5) Redbox British
Based upon the above, I would suggest that sizing to the Revell set would not lead to a problematic disparity with the HaT Prussians.
The picture shows why I have not pursued 7YW, however. The French figure has a thicker base. If I mounted the British figure to the same height, I think these would just about work together. The thicker base on the metal figure means that I might just about manage to field the French with the Prussians and Austrians. French, British and Prussian/Hessian etc, would not work together, however. Minden's out, then!
Finally, I think the picture shows that there is space in the game for HaT British and French marching sets!
Apart from the fact that the Revell figures are a bit "pin headed", I can't see any real differences in any of these figures. Indeed, I do use them all together in games including large numbers of the metal French. No one's ever said anything yet (except "ooh!" & "aaah!")
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Post by Edwardian on Dec 17, 2017 10:07:33 GMT
Oooh
Aaaah
Yes, based upon the comparison exercise, I don't think there is a problem using the HaT and Revell Prussians with Revell Austrians and the metal French.
What I have doubts about is fitting the Redbox Brits in with that lot.
The obvious answer would be for HAR to produce a 7YW British set.
And a French set
And artillery
And cavalry
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Post by paintdog on Dec 17, 2017 12:37:17 GMT
Oooh Aaaah Yes, based upon the comparison exercise, I don't think there is a problem using the HaT and Revell Prussians with Revell Austrians and the metal French. What I have doubts about is fitting the Redbox Brits in with that lot. The obvious answer would be for HAR to produce a 7YW British set. And a French set And artillery And cavalry All good suggestions but after the Austrians are finished (cavalry & Grenze especially) I'd like to see several sets of SYW Russians.
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Post by Malcolm on Dec 17, 2017 14:14:15 GMT
When Zvedza first released their SYW Prussian Grenadiers and Hussars I thought that we were also going to get one of their excellent Artillery sets and the corresponding Russians as a logical enemy for a Russian manufacturer. Unluckily for all of us that has not yet happened. In my own collection amongst the painted regiments I have created/converted a regiment of Russian Cuirassiers but to date have no other Russian sets apart from the Hat Cossacks. So, after the Austrians you can count me in for the Russians.
Best regards,
Malcolm
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Post by Edwardian on Dec 17, 2017 17:51:17 GMT
Not that fussed about Russians, to be frank. Really prefer French and Brits for SYW.
Aside from 7YW, it would be fun to tackle Dettingen, and, if there were better Jacobites available, Culloden.
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Post by Malcolm on Dec 17, 2017 18:55:06 GMT
I also like the British Army but at the moment have the problem with size haunting me. I have the Red Box British and a Highland regiment and converted some British Light Dragoons that are compatible in size (Revell SYW Austrian Dragoons with Airfix Imperial Guards heads cut down to represent Dragoon helmets, mounted on Airfix French Cuirassiers horses with the French saddle). Now of course Italeri make 26mm British Dragoons that match in size to the Hat and Zvedza Prussians. One day I will just have to make a firm commitment.
Best regards,
Malcolm
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Post by paulrpetri on Dec 19, 2017 1:44:36 GMT
This is great news indeed. As for a bonus figure I also vote for a foot general. I thought about a Grenzer but that is of course pointless I need a bunch of them, like a whole box. As for the scale I say stick with the same scale as your Prussians. That photo above is great. If each firm is in its own units and not mixed and matched they could all be on the same gaming table. The Redbox fellow would have problems mixing in with anyone elsefor sure. The Revell figures could mix with the Hat stuff I think. But I am not a purist.
Paul
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Post by Malcolm on Dec 19, 2017 8:51:56 GMT
This is great news indeed. As for a bonus figure I also vote for a foot general. I thought about a Grenzer but that is of course pointless I need a bunch of them, like a whole box. As for the scale I say stick with the same scale as your Prussians. That photo above is great. If each firm is in its own units and not mixed and matched they could all be on the same gaming table. The Redbox fellow would have problems mixing in with anyone elsefor sure. The Revell figures could mix with the Hat stuff I think. But I am not a purist. Paul I personally would like the Hat Austrians to match the Revell ones (although from the comparison photo by Edwardian they already do) since the Revell figures lack Musketeer Muscians and also their Grenadiers are either Marching or Advancing/Attacking while the Musketeers are in Firing Line and I would like to be able to produce the opposite arrangement when Hat is available. Also, if they match although representing a firing line there can be a little more variety in the poses. For the Marching men I would keep them separate or it would give the effect of being out of step. As to the bonus figure, if Hat decide on a senior officer with a lot more braid on the uniform then I think that he should be mounted like the Coronel in the Revell set or the upcoming Hat set. Also please don´t forget those sappers and miners for all those field fortifications that were constructed in those days and perhaps a more active Pioneer? Best regards, Malcolm
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Post by Griphium on Dec 19, 2017 15:38:51 GMT
Can we have some news about the release date of the sets?
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Post by Malcolm on Dec 20, 2017 8:48:52 GMT
Although the original thread by Hat Admin states that these sets have moved forward to the next stage, all that they are showing us are some line drawings with possible numbers of each figure on a sprue. Assuming a MAC format that gives us a two to one ratio of Musketeers to Grenadiers (much more realistic than the one to one ratio of Revell) with srue sizes of twelve figures per sprue and thus box contents of forty eight figures for the Marhing and Action, while the Command looks to be similar to that of the Prussians with one Mounted Officer and five foot figures so twenty four figures per box plus four horses. This all sounds great but as you have pointed out there is no real time line, so we don´t know if we´re talking years or another decade.
Come on Hat give us a useful piece of news to mull over.
Best regards,
Malcolm
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