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Post by Forum Admin on Jan 18, 2018 18:21:08 GMT
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Post by Chris Dodson on Jan 18, 2018 18:28:10 GMT
Both and I would prefer more officers and the NCO as they are the more useful. Some competitors sets have lots of trumpeters and standard bearers to the detriment of the rank and file meaning huge expense is incurred building your units.
Chris
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Post by greentiger on Jan 18, 2018 19:56:34 GMT
I don't like sticking bits on so vote for the backpacks and helmets on. And helmets rather than shakos - you already do a shako set (two if you count he Grenzers)
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Post by rapira3 on Jan 18, 2018 21:04:11 GMT
Backpacks off
Helmet= campaigns of 1800,1805,1809
Shako= 1809 mainly in central Europe, 1812 in Russia, 1813 in Germany, 1814 in France and in Northern Italy, 1815 against Murat and his Neapolitans.
I vote for both but if only one is decided, my vote is for Shako.
Duplicate Officer and/or NCO.
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Post by Vellek on Jan 18, 2018 21:28:37 GMT
Backpacks off. Both helmets and shakos on sprue, as in the Peninsular British Command and 7YW Prussians. Duplicate the officer and the NCO. Thanks for asking!
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Post by militumman74 on Jan 18, 2018 21:44:50 GMT
I've got the Bavarians and the backpacks stand off too much, necessitating some surgery. SO I say backpacks molded on figure. But I like the idea of having an option between helmet and shako, if they fit correctly.
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Post by Brian on Jan 18, 2018 23:44:36 GMT
I've got the Bavarians and the backpacks stand off too much, necessitating some surgery. SO I say backpacks molded on figure. But I like the idea of having an option between helmet and shako, if they fit correctly. I did notice at the Waterloo 2015 Reenactment that Napoleonic Backpacks do actually stand off the soldiers wearing them unlike modern backpacks which hug the contours of the body, I guess it's to do with the stiff leather they are made from and the positioning of the straps. I voted for them to be left off as I think they look slightly better particularly the swords and cartridge box but, if they are can be made as well as Hat's set 8170 French Guard Chasseurs I would not be too disappointed.
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Post by Brian on Jan 18, 2018 23:52:14 GMT
Got to have a good mixture of both Shakos and Helmets I do not mind if they are separate on sprue or some are on the figures as long as we have enough to cover all the figures and the odd Grenadiers fur cap one per sprue would be fine.
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Jordan
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Post by Jordan on Jan 19, 2018 1:52:42 GMT
Backpacks ==> On.
Headgear ==> Both.
All your other Austrian packs have an officer, so you do not need another. I would prefer a second flag bearer in his place. Your Austrian Line set (8027) does not have either an NCO nor a drummer, so keep those two figures.
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Post by Edwardian on Jan 19, 2018 12:33:00 GMT
Thanks for asking for feedback
Headgear has to be both. HaT has a one shot chance to cover the entire Napoleonic period with a single set. Bonkers to restrict it.
Back-packs - I am indifferent as to whether separate or moulded ion - so if it saves space and cost ....
Command - Single standard bearer, but double up on NCO, Officer and Drummer.
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Post by PRJA on Jan 20, 2018 15:09:43 GMT
Given the choice.....
Backpacks : On Headgear : Helmets Duplicate : The Standard Bearer
Thank you HaT.
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Post by ToneTW on Jan 20, 2018 22:45:52 GMT
My preference would be helmets with packs on. I think they would look better separate, but I've never been bothered by earlier sets with them molded on.
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Post by steve on Jan 21, 2018 10:25:26 GMT
I would be Happy with the sets as they are pictured by Hat originally they seem to be a good all round compromise, that will fill must peoples need for a good Austrian army unit,only thing maybe to change would to have back packs on as looking at the two packs pictured they are quite similar. I would keep the option of Shako, Helmet & Bearskin to provide flexibility & it would be great if you could provide enough heads to cover all the figures being assembled with the same headgear. Thanks for asking.
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Post by gbvarese on Jan 21, 2018 16:09:18 GMT
Dear Hat, About the option either shako or leather helmet, or both, I've already expressed my opinion answering the question "Vote here". With regard to the knapsac, I prefer not to have it separated from the figures, as this results in less work for the modellers, mainly when it's question of producing huge infantry units, as the Austrian ones. Concerning the duplication of figures, as others said, officers and drummers are included in other sets and and can be easily converted. I vote therefore for the standard bearer and the NCO. Thanks. Giovanni.
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Post by Roscoe Remington on Jan 22, 2018 8:16:09 GMT
Backpacks off, if we must compromise.
Both helmets and shakos. No Bearskins?
Officer and NCO (Love those Oberrocks)
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Post by pietjepuk on Jan 22, 2018 10:59:02 GMT
Dear Hat
I prefer backpacks on in this case. Both helmets and shakos are best. This leaves the option and will make this a standard set for 1/72 Napoleonic Austrians. As to command: I need more drummers and NCO's then officers or standard bearers.
Many regards,
Pieter
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Post by mateus on Jan 22, 2018 15:38:46 GMT
Backpacks off
Both helmets and shakos
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Post by Brunswick on Jan 24, 2018 0:15:01 GMT
The figures look great! I'm going to go with the backpacks on, but having both helmets and shakos would be nice. I'm hoping these will be in 1/32 as well because the only other 1/32 Austrians out in the market are the Italeri ones and those are pretty much out of production I think and they're pretty expensive when found.
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Post by Scottmarquardt on Jan 26, 2018 22:28:08 GMT
Use HaT 1/32 for Blucher. Either way for backpacks. Prefer shakos. Do units of 16. Prefer officer, ensign.drummer and NCO for command. Hungarians/Grenzers would be awesome as would grenadiers or grenadier head option.
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Post by johnthered on Jan 28, 2018 16:14:01 GMT
Hi
Backpacks on if its one or the other but having just put on a lot for your French Chasseurs cant say it was an issue
Definitely Helmet but adding Shako makes this the ultimate Austrian Naps set and therefore why settle for less
Duplicate - the NCO and the Officer
re release the other Austrian (sic) sets when this box goes out and you have the full range and options to mix
cheers
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Post by Biv Vel Spatar on Feb 4, 2018 11:29:41 GMT
Backpacks moulded on the figure.
Both Helment and Shako (and if is not posibble then Helmets)
Flagbearers are in short suply.
Thanks for asking Biv Vel Spatar
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Post by Stan on Feb 4, 2018 12:27:47 GMT
I've got the Bavarians and the backpacks stand off too much, necessitating some surgery. SO I say backpacks molded on figure. But I like the idea of having an option between helmet and shako, if they fit correctly. I did notice at the Waterloo 2015 Reenactment that Napoleonic Backpacks do actually stand off the soldiers wearing them unlike modern backpacks which hug the contours of the body, I guess it's to do with the stiff leather they are made from and the positioning of the straps. I voted for them to be left off as I think they look slightly better particularly the swords and cartridge box but, if they are can be made as well as Hat's set 8170 French Guard Chasseurs I would not be too disappointed. As a re-enactor I know that the way a Havresac or ''backpack'' is fitting around a soldiers body is mainly decided by the content of the backpack and also by how it is attached, all of course combined with the posture of the soldier himself. I would love to see these in 1/32! Stan
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Post by rbhjr on Mar 18, 2018 20:16:48 GMT
If it makes them easier to mold I'm fine with the backpacks on.
Need both the helmet and shako option in the set so "off".
A grenadier bearskin option for the overcoat-wearing officer would be great as well!
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Post by Libero on Apr 24, 2018 10:43:51 GMT
Dear HAT Headgear Most importantly PLEASE keep 3 types of headgear Shako, Helmet, Bearskin. Flexibility of choice was once originally one of the fundamentals (cornerstones) of which the MAC format was built upon. I hope very much the separate headgear is engineered properly to provide a good fit for each figure. Just a thought is it possible to have for the 3 types of headgear - peg heads (this means full head attached to headgear - re British Peninsular war set) to which they can be inserted into a ready made hole at the top of the figure ? (the hole being made via your manufacturing process). Figure size Please make the Austrian/Hungarian figures to the same size as the Napoleonic Late Prussian Action set figures. The Austrian Grenadiers set in my opinion was somewhat of a let down in terms of figure size (leaving thin muskets and oh don't mention the small faces with the barely distinguishable features oh dear...). The inclusion of the Mounted Austrian Officer is a must & would be great. Backpacks Ideally I would prefer separate backpacks as they may look aesthetically pleasing to the eye (to me), but separate backpacks must achieve a good fit and not be to the detriment of providing 'fewer figures'. However if there needs to be a compromise between headgear and backpacks - please provide 3 separate headgear and the backpacks can be attached to figures as one piece. In reference to your formula Less pieces = smaller sprue = lower costs what percentage% reduction in cost per box to the customer would it be if backpacks are moulded to the figures in the set. For example will it be 2%, 5%, 10% reduction in cost, would it be a minimal, reasonable or significant reduction in cost compared to that of separate backpack figures in a box? If possible an approximate percentage expressed would be appreciated to aid in the decision making process. Or will having moulded backpacks provides room for additional figures at a lower cost ? Duplicate figures For me this will be somewhat dependent upon the number of figures provided in a box (that are not command figures). Perhaps extra flagbearer , drummer & NCO ? Austrians and 'Hungarians' to be included - its good to hear their brothers in arms are making a very welcomed appearance - I hope the single box mixed configuration works out well. Thank you HAT for listening to our input. Best Regards Libero
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Post by Allan from Glasgow on Apr 24, 2018 16:55:13 GMT
Hi Thanks for asking for our opinions.
I would like the following
Firstly whatever way this set is done please stick to your MAC format
Backpacks - Off (Painting is easier and can be left off if strapping is completed on rear of figure and gives another pose).
helmets / shakos - both greater choice is always good, same amount of separate heads for the figures that are on sprue
Command - Please do command sprues with at least 6 command group figs per sprue (I do my command stands with 6 figures and it would be great to have the option of a second flag-bearer and a NCO pose who has the ability to be easily converted to a flag-bearer).
many thanks for asking for our input,
Allan
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