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Post by Tripod on Apr 2, 2018 23:38:34 GMT
Yes,if sized to match Perry,Warlord,Victrix etc.Would love Sassanid Persians in 28 mm.
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Post by Helldiver on Apr 4, 2018 8:36:06 GMT
I'm getting old and blind so 28mm is the future.
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Post by cooey2ph on Apr 13, 2018 13:26:09 GMT
Yes, Romano Briton period
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Post by joe5790 on Jun 28, 2018 8:53:50 GMT
Yes. 28mm scale is more or less the industry standard for wargaming now. If you look anywhere, at any new table top wargame or skirmish game, it will be in 28mm scale. And looking into the future, 1/72 And 1/32 scales are probably going to die as a viable scale system to sell because no one younger than 30 years old today are going to consider them. They are too used to 28mm by this point.
But another reason I want to see more 28mm sets, is that depending on where you live, the chances are that you'll never find another person to play a game with 1/72 Or 1/32 scale miniatures. I've only recently converted myself to use 1/72 scale miniatures for historical wargaming, but unless I buy and build and paint every army myself, I'll never find another player to play against. The majority of gamers do not want to use these scales anymore even though they are cheap as chips to buy.
I didn't want to spend £300+ to build a 28mm Napoleonic army, but if I wanted to actually go to a game club and have a game with anyone there I had to. I would have much preferred to spend around £100 And be content with that amount of models for one specific army and for others to have the same scale models to play against. But they don't.
At some point HaT are going to have to dedicate more resources to 28mm as a very small few at my age range (25-30) uses or collects 1/72 Or 1/32 scale models. It will be a case of adapt or die.
As to what sets I would prefer to see. I would like to see more Napoleonic and other Musket Era sets (Great Northern War, War of the Spanish/Austrian Succession, French and Indian War, Seven Years War, AWI, French Revolution).
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Post by jock52 on Jun 28, 2018 9:09:27 GMT
No change since last time - complete the El Cid range.
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Post by Helldiver on Jul 2, 2018 10:56:53 GMT
Yes. 28mm scale is more or less the industry standard for wargaming now. If you look anywhere, at any new table top wargame or skirmish game, it will be in 28mm scale. And looking into the future, 1/72 And 1/32 scales are probably going to die as a viable scale system to sell because no one younger than 30 years old today are going to consider them. They are too used to 28mm by this point. But another reason I want to see more 28mm sets, is that depending on where you live, the chances are that you'll never find another person to play a game with 1/72 Or 1/32 scale miniatures. I've only recently converted myself to use 1/72 scale miniatures for historical wargaming, but unless I buy and build and paint every army myself, I'll never find another player to play against. The majority of gamers do not want to use these scales anymore even though they are cheap as chips to buy. I didn't want to spend £300+ to build a 28mm Napoleonic army, but if I wanted to actually go to a game club and have a game with anyone there I had to. I would have much preferred to spend around £100 And be content with that amount of models for one specific army and for others to have the same scale models to play against. But they don't. At some point HaT are going to have to dedicate more resources to 28mm as a very small few at my age range (25-30) uses or collects 1/72 Or 1/32 scale models. It will be a case of adapt or die. As to what sets I would prefer to see. I would like to see more Napoleonic and other Musket Era sets (Great Northern War, War of the Spanish/Austrian Succession, French and Indian War, Seven Years War, AWI, French Revolution). yeah! I love this man!!
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Post by steve of windy waters on Jul 28, 2018 9:46:01 GMT
when will you finish the Elcid command groups please? as with a poster above i use them for LOTR and need some command...
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Post by Contarirus on Jul 28, 2018 14:05:40 GMT
I disagree that 1/72 and 15mm are dead. Sure 28m is prettier but it is also far less portable and more expensive. Where I live in central Europe, 1/72 is still king and few people play Napoleonics and WW2 in any other scale. It is no surprise that Central and Eastern European manufacturers are beginning to dominate the 1/72 plastic battlefield.
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Post by waynew on Jul 28, 2018 20:42:58 GMT
I agree with Contrarius; while it appears 28mm is popular (I had been blissfully unaware of the scale until relative recently, but I live in the "boondocks" of the hobby so that's no surprise) there is STILL a BIG market for 1/72 and 1/32. To each his own.
Re-reading this thread though, am I the ONLY one who sees an irony in the fact there are so many posts asking HaT to change their style to match other companies' because HaT's figures are TOO realistic? Are mine the only eyebrows raised that folks are asking HaT to LOWER their standards to match other companies' product? Maybe, I'm reading this wrong - I don't mean to stir up more controversy, but shouldn't the goal be to achieve MORE realism in both detail and proportion? Maybe if HaT is going to enter the 28mm word the other companies should step up their game to match HaT's quality? I don't know, I'm just an old dinosaur... and I really don't have a horse in the race.
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Post by joe5790 on Jul 28, 2018 23:41:59 GMT
I agree with Contrarius; while it appears 28mm is popular (I had been blissfully unaware of the scale until relative recently, but I live in the "boondocks" of the hobby so that's no surprise) there is STILL a BIG market for 1/72 and 1/32. To each his own. Re-reading this thread though, am I the ONLY one who sees an irony in the fact there are so many posts asking HaT to change their style to match other companies' because HaT's figures are TOO realistic? Are mine the only eyebrows raised that folks are asking HaT to LOWER their standards to match other companies' product? Maybe, I'm reading this wrong - I don't mean to stir up more controversy, but shouldn't the goal be to achieve MORE realism in both detail and proportion? Maybe if HaT is going to enter the 28mm word the other companies should step up their game to match HaT's quality? I don't know, I'm just an old dinosaur... and I really don't have a horse in the race. I didn't say the older scales are dead. Just out of fashion with most of the popular game systems and model ranges, and that can only continue to sweep aside 1/72 and other miniatures scales as newer wargamers are very likely to start their collections with 28mm and not compromise to use any other scale. Added to this, new players to a historical game may be forced to using 28mm as that is the scale the established players have chosen to use. There are very few players that would accept a new person using minis of a different scale....I certainly was encouraged to get 28mm, even though I would have preferred to use 1/72, because that was the only scale being used. Added to that last point historical based wargaming, based on area of course, is very niche inside a very niche hobby. Where I live, there are only 2-3 people within an hour's drive who play Warlords Black Powder game. But that is only one game among many and they don't play games that often. There has to be many people in the same sort of situation or worse in their areas, but in other areas it may be thriving, in which case your lucky. Few of my friends are even slightly interested (they like the models I paint and eras, but don't actually care to start collecting and playing) but they aren't interested in historical gaming. So when you find other players you don't really have a choice but to take up whatever scale they have, which more than likely will be 28mm. So saying that HaT shouldn't bother with 28mm and focus only on the older scales is not really helping anyone. There is a market they could dominate if they put the investment into it. Their competitors (Perry Miniatures, Victrix Miniatures and Warlord Games) sell 40 model boxes for £20-£25, whereas HaT sold their sets with similar model numbers for £9 a box. If they were to develop a huge range, and actually get the word out that these box sets exist they can easily beat the competition. As to the scale issue, I've seen the complaints but after getting the Prussian boxes, yes they are smaller, but once painted they don't look that noticeably smaller next to chunkier 28mm stuff. Unfortunately, most 28mm scale players are used to the chunkier style as it is generally easier to paint, and since Games Workshop decided to go with a 'Heroic' 28mm scale (arms legs and head are oversized compared to true scale) it's just what most expect. For some it is hard to mix and match different model ranges if the scales aren't exactly the same. Nonsense I know, but surprisingly lots of gamers and collectors hate this and HaT being the relative newcomer to the scale, it sort of makes sense that they are singled out for this "infraction." Companies like Perry or Warlord aren't going to come down to HaT realistic proportions on their models. They've been in that space longer and have more or less established the standard in that space (the proportions of the models are still correct, they just look a little beefier). So either HaT continues with what they are doing and continue to be ignored, or they change things up to conform with the standard. I saw a review for the Prussians that claimed that they are actually 2mm shorter in height (bottom of feet to eyes) compared to other model ranges, so it could be that HaT models aren't as chunky because they are missing 2mm in all axis (x,y and z) which might help to beef they up to the same standard. But that is for HaT to tinker with. Again. Silly, but that's how the cookies seems to crumble.
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Post by wmyers on Aug 12, 2018 7:17:59 GMT
I have literally 10's of thousands of 1/72 scale figures. I have not one person to play games with using them. Everyone I know who games uses 28mm figures.
I do have the Hat El Cid figures in 28mm, but they are, frankly, unusable.
The horses are perfect, but the figures' heads and hands and weapons (the latter being very fragile) are so out of "scale" from what is used by every single 28mm maker they are not compatible in the least. (I have partially rectified this by cutting their heads off and replacing them with extra Gripping Beast heads from their Arab sets.)
IF Hat continues the El Cid range, they had better change the masters to match all the other makers out there.
IF this was done, I am sure the sets would fly off the shelves! Why? For the reason people are now getting used to plastic 28mm figures. Warlord Games and Wargames Factory pioneered the scale for historical miniatures (Games Workshop only makes fantasy sets). Gripping Beast, Perry, Northstar, Agema and others are now all making plastic figures. If there was no profit in it, none of them would be. If people did not like them (both 28mm and plastic as a medium) they would not make them any more.
For Hat, this is really an untapped market. It would only make sense to match the style and size (scale) of all the other 28mm makers. If not, then very few will buy the 28mm sets. (I am sure Hat has done the math on how well their current 28mm sets have sold.)
It would probably not be that hard to redo masters to have 28mm proportioned heads (note, I am not stating "scale" as 28mm is far more of a concept than a scale!) and hands and weapons that will not easily break when handled on the gaming table.
There are a great many metal makers of 28mm figures who have tremendous followings and if Hat were to leap on the stage I am sure they could do very well!
This does have to be well thought out though.
28mm metal figures are made in a very different process which allows for undercuts that 2 piece moulds are unable to reproduce. 28mm figures are expected to show this "full roundness" of figures. Hat must follow suit.
Having separate arms seems to be one way. Another would be to have 3 piece moulds like Caesar does with their 1/72 figures.
I do not think Hat needs to produce figures that are as multipose as Warlord's plastics (although it may be very nice!). I think Hat has developed a wonderful style all their own, especially with cavalry figures, and that should be used, but in a proportion to match.
Clearly there is room for both 1/72 and 28mm on the market. In fact, covering both aspects would be a, potentially, very wise move.
I have followed Hat since their inception and some sets I have really loved and others I have walked away from (especially the very flat ones).
The price of Hat figure sets is another aspect that would, I believe, literally blow the competition away! Warlord figure sets of 30 figures cost OVER $40 USD! It is ridiculous. Warlord cavalry sets of 12 figures cost $32 USD! Again, outrageous.
If Hat truly entered the market, their price point for compatible (and therefore comparable!) figures alone would ensure sales. Hat's quality and commitment to quality product (this whole forum question area is proof of that!) would ensure continued success.
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Post by waynew on Aug 12, 2018 19:08:56 GMT
So, am I to assume that THIS is preferable to the current style? Or is THIS better?
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Post by Graeme on Aug 13, 2018 3:35:41 GMT
Firstly I want to say that I don't buy 28mm but I have no objection to HaT making more of them. If you guys want them and HaT wants to make them that's fine by me. And Your thoughts about future markets being mostly 28mm are interesting and certainly something HaT should consider but there are a few points I want to raise:
1. I don't post on TMP but I do read the posts there and I get the impression that the 28mm fraternity on the whole just don't buy HaT. There's still a large number of them who only buy metal and won't even consider what they call "plastic tat". It seems there are an increasing nummber who are begining to buy plastics but my impression is that they buy Perry's and they buy Victrix and they don't even look at HaT. Also I don't know how many of them actually want to build whole armies from the plastic figures rather than just using the plastic figures as additions to their metal armies.
2. If I understand this correctly I believe HaT's policy, espescially with the new production method using digitised masters, is to use the same masters and just scale them up or down for the three different scales. This means that if the 28mm figures had their style changed to match other 28mm manufacturers then we would also be getting our 1/72 and 1/32 figures in that 28mm style, I certainly don't want that. Honestly if I want 1/72 figures in heroic scale I can buy HaT. And I do buy HaT figures but I have bought far more HaT because I prefer the proportions (and because they make more of what I want). And I think I'm not the only one here who prefers more realistically proportioned figures.
Cetainly consider future markets but don't ignore your current market for an uncertain potential future one like Zvezda did.Changing the style of the 28mm figures to match others on the market would, I think, require a seperate line of production.
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Post by joe5790 on Aug 13, 2018 9:45:15 GMT
So, am I to assume that THIS is preferable to the current style? Or is THIS better? Neither of these are what the 28mm crowd want. If you look at any Perry or Victrix set you will see that everything is still proportionally correct. Oversized heads and arms and legs are not what most people want.
Take these for example, (The pictures are too big to just attach using the forum system, so I uploaded the pictures to Google Drive) drive.google.com/open?id=1W9motaDdsEN0TNbw_3i9CbmPs9zEd8Xv
The above link is a picture of the HaT Prussians in Marching Pose. As you can see, there is very little in the difference at first glance, but the HaT models are noticeably smaller in every dimension compared to the Elite Miniatures Swedish models. The best way to describe the difference is that the HaT models all look like a skinny 16 or 17 year old, while the rest of the 28mm space are all fairly buff men.
Here is an example of Victrix Austrian Landwehr, (Unfortunately not next to the HaT models) drive.google.com/open?id=11_Sn06yUO1Yr5krqmO5GrdV3j8DRBQOq
Same again, the models look in proportion to anyone else, they are just more buff
And here is a Warlord Games 28mm British model. The model looks to be in proportion, but again they just look more buff drive.google.com/open?id=1hQaDClEkPtoTF3lF8D8ojRX-ipFsbHvE
As you can see, the issue with HaTs models is not that they are completely out of scale, the problem is that they just aren't in scale with other model ranges that have opted for more buff looking models.
None of those models pictured are in the "Heroic" scale. They are all true scale 28mm/1:56 Scale. They have just opted to go for the slightly stockier version of true scale, and unfortunately HaTs sets stand out quite a bit when next to them.
I personally have no issues with HaTs 28mm sets. Once painted there is very little difference between them and other sets. But a lot of people, even as mentioned above by the 1/72 scale enthusiasts, like to mix and match their models, if they can. Unfortunately HaTs sets aren't mix and matchable with other sets because of the scale difference.
Here is a blog that reviews the HaT sets and compares them to other ranges, for your information. The second link gives a much better discussion about the different scaling, with more photograph showing the difference. macpheesminiaturemen.blogspot.com/2010/09/hat-industries-28mm-prussian-infantry.html macpheesminiaturemen.blogspot.com/2009/11/hat-industries-28mm-napoleonic.html
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A lot of players wont consider HaT plastics in 28mm because, like I and others have said, they just aren't completely in the same scale as the other model ranges in the space. Of course there is going to be some who will only ever buy Metal, but there are quite a number of players that prefer to have plastic for a variety of reasons. But a big reason that most go to Perry or Victrix is mostly because they probably never heard of HaT, I certainly didn't until I started looking to play Napoleonics in 1/72 scale. A lot of players wont consider using 1/72 scale models, or even think about that as a viable scale. So they don't get exposed to HaT.
However, they will have been exposed to Perry Miniatures mostly because the Perry brothers used to be Games Workshops main model sculptors. So they have recognition behind them and a reputation for great quality. HaT has only dipped its toes in the 28mm space and so they haven't garnered any reputation, except that they've made historical models that aren't in scale with others like Perry or Victrix. But for the most part, no one knows HaT exists.
Speaking on for myself, I would much prefer to build an entire army out of Plastics. They are generally easier to maintain after painting as unlike metal figures, paint doesn't tend to chip off anywhere near as much as it does on metal models. Secondly, plastic models are just cheaper to buy than metal models. For example, for a box of Perry plastic Prussians is £20 for 46 models, while 30 metal models costs £30-£35 depending on who you buy from. I've seen a good few metal only players say that they prefer the heft and weight that metal models have, but I have no such attraction to things like that. If I can build the model quickly and paint it without needing to fear about the paint chipping, I am happy to use plastics in every game I play.
Others might have other reasons to choose one over the other, but that's just a preference and shouldn't be considered as a reason to not make models in plastics.
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Post by Zaphod Bubblysox on Aug 16, 2018 12:58:23 GMT
NO!
This 28mm thing has already gone wayyy to far. Give us some more good 1/72 Napoleonic figs, with lots of poses.
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Post by joe5790 on Aug 16, 2018 14:09:14 GMT
NO! This 28mm thing has already gone wayyy to far. Give us some more good 1/72 Napoleonic figs, with lots of poses. How has it gone too far? HaT barely got started. Or are you talking about the thread? There is a market for the scale, and there are clearly those who want HaT to make them.
Also, I prefer the new direction HaT are going with the Napoleonics and any other Age of Musket army. Makes wargaming with them so much better looking with an all marching pose army, needing at most only 4 poses only. Saves HaT money on the sculpting and then tinkering time on the computer to make them a reality meaning we get them much faster than if the sets had 10 unique poses in each set.
Absolutely hate that there are so many box sets out there with only 2 usable poses out of 8 or 10 poses and only 12 models out of 48 in those poses.
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Post by renaatvh on Aug 17, 2018 8:19:58 GMT
1/72 or 28mm is moot if there is nobody seling the product 😯. How many conventions have you attended where there was some HaT on offer? You'll see lots of Victrix, Perry and Warlord though. Will be a tough market to compete with. Even online, non of the bigger retailers were you find the previous mentioned makes offer HaT miniatures. So the biggest hurdle in my opinion will be distribution. Especially here in the blackhole were I live.
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Post by Zaphod Bubblysox on Aug 18, 2018 6:16:45 GMT
NO! This 28mm thing has already gone wayyy to far. Give us some more good 1/72 Napoleonic figs, with lots of poses. How has it gone too far? HaT barely got started. Or are you talking about the thread? There is a market for the scale, and there are clearly those who want HaT to make them.
Also, I prefer the new direction HaT are going with the Napoleonics and any other Age of Musket army. Makes wargaming with them so much better looking with an all marching pose army, needing at most only 4 poses only. Saves HaT money on the sculpting and then tinkering time on the computer to make them a reality meaning we get them much faster than if the sets had 10 unique poses in each set.
Absolutely hate that there are so many box sets out there with only 2 usable poses out of 8 or 10 poses and only 12 models out of 48 in those poses.
I mean the 28mm thing in general has gone too far (not HaT specifically) - to the extent it’s taking over from 15mm and 1/72. As for poses, yes a few usable ones (for gaming purposes) are far preferable to a surfeit of unusual poses, and cheaper to produce. Off the top of my head, the worst examples would be things like Airfix Commandos, where you have men carrying canoes, or various Gebirgsjaeger packs, where nearly two-thirds of the figures are climbing mountains, throwing ropes, putting on skis, etc. If I did ever go for 28mm it would be for assembled figures, where you can vary the poses slightly. Makes for more natural looking battalions, especially useful considering there is so much more detail available at that scale. So, I will extend my original comment and say HaT should stick to the scale it does best - 1/72!
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Post by Guy from WS&S Magazine on Sept 2, 2018 17:26:52 GMT
I believe that extending your 28mm ranges is a sound business move. HaT can provide quality 28mm (foot to eye) miniatures and at a cost which will be very competitive against other manufacturers. Every year, Wargames, Soldiers and Strategy run the Great Wargames Survey. In our survey, 28mm is the most popular scale by a clear margin. The point on distribution is an important one. No, you don't see HaT at wargames shows, either in person or with a distributor and you should do. As a side note, I have several boxes of HaT 28mm Prussians mixed in with Perrys. They look great. Guy www.karwansaraypublishers.com/wss-mag
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Post by jock52 on Sept 3, 2018 8:59:34 GMT
Flogging a dead horse with this one. If by some miracle it were to come to pass, stay well away from Nappies. The market is over-endowed already and it would end as usual in the Pomeranian piccolo player syndrome. Produce figures younger gamers want (I endorse what's been said on this earlier) but competitively priced so they can actually afford them. Generic Medieval types, Ancients, the World Wars (and risking the wrath of Khan) fantasy and sci-fi. How many 1/72 Napoleonic tables do you see at conventions? Look at what's being produced in 10mm, more imporatntly, look at how it's selling. Think about BUYERS guys, not the '1/72 Nappies or death' brigade. Just my humble opinion of course
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Post by Dan Peterson on Sept 8, 2018 2:23:22 GMT
Hello I may have even acquired more of your figures than any single person with the 15000 Romans for the Teutoburger Battle diorama. 16 years ago I implored you to make 28mm and 40mm figures and if you had started back then with say six sets a year you would be the undisputed "King" of those scales. Your Bavarians are quite possibly the best proportioned 28mm figures on the market but they are ahead of their time. The other plastic manufacturer are essentially trying to mimic the traditional 28mm white metal 'mutants' which makes your figures unfortunately incompatible with all the rest. You needed to deliberately make them as crappy as the rest. If you had a fairly complete line of 28mm Napoleonics of the same caliber of the Bavarians they would be the only ones I would use and sell off all the mutants and toss my useless 1/72 soft plastic which are crumbling to bits from old age anyway. But it will be at least a decade before you'd have a large enough range of units for people to use your essentially 'new' scale of "28mm figures that actually look like real humans". I actually wanted you to do 40mm more than anything else - compatible with the venerable 40mm Elastolin figures that remain after 60 plus years some of the best sculpted and anatomically correct figures ever made. (though regrettably somewhat historically inaccurate given how long ago they were sculpted.) So like others have stated - unless you have the resources to produces LOTS of new sets in a record amount of time your 28mm endeavor is too little too late unless you drop the ultra realistic look of your Bavarians and make clones of Perry's in size and style. IF you were to do that I suspect they would be your top selling figures once they became known to the 28mm folks. For your first set of Perry clones I would make a Braunschweig infantry set for the ever popular Waterloo/100 Days. You could use the same body for the Leib Bn; Line and light Battalions with interchangeable heads. After these go with the other allies (Dutch/Nassau/etc. and artillery sets of the 100 days that none of the other plastic companies make yet. Mark my words they will be your most popular sets as most people these days would rather spend their time painting more valuable figures that could be a real inheritance for their children to resell some day for real money instead of continding with smaller crumbling; cheap soft plastic toys that will simply be swept up and tossed into the trash when we 'old school' hobbyists who started with Airfix figures as kids grow old and die off. If you don't believe me just look at the prices of small scale painted soldiers on eBay.
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Post by joe5790 on Sept 8, 2018 11:16:54 GMT
By this point I am curious on what HaT have to say on this issue. They started the tread, but haven't interacted with it all that much.
There is clearly a want for more 28mm sets. Perhaps not by the majority and hard-core HaT customers who only want more 1/72 scale, but still more than enough to justify expansion where the rest of the 28mm only crowd will begin to take notice.
As to what sets they should do first, they should focus on sets that provide the minimum required for the major factions. So for the Napoleonics, French, British, Austrian, Russian and Prussian Line Infantry and line cavalry. The bare basics, and not the random assortment of the more specialised units made so far (French Chasseur, or Carabiners for example).
The Minor nations can be added later with the production of them focused on more specific campaigns to keep things in perspective. So for example for the Peninsular War they can focus on making Spanish, Portuguese, Neapolitian, and other Allied French units that fought there.
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Post by Stan on Sept 9, 2018 14:44:44 GMT
Yes. 28mm scale is more or less the industry standard for wargaming now. If you look anywhere, at any new table top wargame or skirmish game, it will be in 28mm scale. And looking into the future, 1/72 And 1/32 scales are probably going to die as a viable scale system to sell because no one younger than 30 years old today are going to consider them. They are too used to 28mm by this point. But another reason I want to see more 28mm sets, is that depending on where you live, the chances are that you'll never find another person to play a game with 1/72 Or 1/32 scale miniatures. I've only recently converted myself to use 1/72 scale miniatures for historical wargaming, but unless I buy and build and paint every army myself, I'll never find another player to play against. The majority of gamers do not want to use these scales anymore even though they are cheap as chips to buy. At some point HaT are going to have to dedicate more resources to 28mm as a very small few at my age range (25-30) uses or collects 1/72 Or 1/32 scale models. It will be a case of adapt or die. ------------------------------- Hi Joe, I totally disagree with your point! I am 24 and only collect 1/32! I know multiple young men under 30 that only collect 1/32 too! With all respect to HaT, I read reviews that their 28mm figures have the most realistic body proportions by means of their head compared to their body etc. but they don't match any other brands in 28mm and therefore many people won't buy more except for if they only want to buy HaTs... So I think in both 1/72 and 1/32 there are a lot of possibilities and their is a big market for 1/32 but not that much offer!... So an opportunity for HaT!
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Post by joe5790 on Sept 9, 2018 18:18:01 GMT
And I know many more people at the under 30 age, and more above, that only collect 28mm.
I never said that all under 30s will only collect in 28mm, I said most do because they don't know or want any other scale.
You and your friends are possibly an exception to a rule.
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Post by Helldiver on Sept 12, 2018 11:06:07 GMT
About 28mm question, Someone has pics of the 28mm british dragoons compared with perrys or others 28mm figures? bye
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