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Post by Forum Admin on Mar 20, 2019 21:40:24 GMT
Earlier poll: First set = Austrian infantry with separate helmet. (Later set of Hungarians with separate shako.) ------------------ 8326 Marching set with 12 figures/sprue, 48 per box. Helmets to be off, backpacks to be on. -------------- 8327 Action set: 12 figures/sprue, 48 per box. --------------- 8328 Command set with mounted officer, marching officer, drummer, NCO and standard bearer: --------------- Please feel free to comment. All suggestions will be considered.
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Post by mrschmitt on Mar 21, 2019 9:25:40 GMT
Sorry, but where are the shakos?
And if there are no shakos, why is the helmet off?
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Post by Forum Admin on Mar 21, 2019 10:05:54 GMT
So they can be exchanged with a later set of Hungarians with shakos.
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Post by Pierre on Mar 21, 2019 10:52:26 GMT
Hi Great For the command set, 1 standard bearer by sprue it's enough (3 or 4 by box). The best is to add a sapper instead for example. 2 officers and 2 NCO per sprue it is nice. Thanks Pierre
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Post by Wagram 1809 on Mar 21, 2019 12:37:06 GMT
Superbe !
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Post by mrschmitt on Mar 21, 2019 12:47:04 GMT
So they can be exchanged with a later set of Hungarians with shakos. so, how long do I have to wait? Again ten years?
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Post by mrschmitt on Mar 21, 2019 12:51:59 GMT
So they can be exchanged with a later set of Hungarians with shakos. And to have both with shakos, I am supposed to buy the double?
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Post by stevo0113 on Mar 21, 2019 18:02:25 GMT
These are early pictures of the figures & they look good the mounted officer looks great, in time I am sure that when all the details are finalised Hat will show more pics that will more resemble the finished articles .Not sure of the figure with the big square on his head though
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Post by Forum Admin on Mar 21, 2019 19:04:05 GMT
so, how long do I have to wait? Again ten years? And to have both with shakos, I am supposed to buy the double? This thread is here to ask for your suggestions.
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Post by Brian on Mar 21, 2019 20:30:48 GMT
Very good first impressions great to see this long awaited set off the back burner and making progress again. I would like to support the idea of a Zimmermann (sapper) instead of a second Flag Bearer if that is still an option, and would definitely like to see some Shako's included in the the gaps on the sprue and a Grenadiers Cap.
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Boom boom out go the lights
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Post by Boom boom out go the lights on Mar 21, 2019 20:48:33 GMT
Thanks for the update. Looking promising.
Please check the hands. Those on one man are broken, and the drummer's and foot officer's hands are too big.
I prefer heads with headgear and neck in one piece. If the headgear comes as a separate piece, like here, you must be very confident in your ability to produce a good fit.
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Post by harlow on Mar 21, 2019 21:51:50 GMT
Thanks for the update. Looking promising. Please check the hands. Those on one man are broken, and the drummer's and foot officer's hands are too big. I prefer heads with headgear and neck in one piece. If the headgear comes as a separate piece, like here, you must be very confident in your ability to produce a good fit. Great selection of figures! I can´t wait to see them in shops, but I agree with my for-writer that some hands are quite quite big and clumsy - not only the dummer´s and officer´s hands. Still more hands should been correct.... It´s amazing also to read that hungarians will follow, but the hat/helmet-combinations makes only sense if the 2 sets will issued in short time and not some years later ....
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Post by Bob Wagner on Mar 21, 2019 22:03:05 GMT
These look very good. However, I feel that the whole head with shako or helmet attached is the way to go. There should also be enough shakos and helmets in every box for all the figures.I would be willing to spend more or get less figures for this option.
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Post by mrschmitt on Mar 22, 2019 10:08:40 GMT
And to have both with shakos, I am supposed to buy the double? This thread is here to ask for your suggestions. OK, I understand, I'll keep it simple. Please issue them with both, shako and helmet. Please issue Germans and Hungarians altogether.
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Post by mateus on Mar 22, 2019 14:56:34 GMT
To concur with the opinion of others, here, I too see no point in having a separate headgear with only helmets in the sprue.
The kit should be complete on its own, it should not rely on the prospect of a future kit to fill its gaps, especially considering said kit might take another 10 years to get done, or never get done at all! Please, Hat, don't go that way with these Austrians. We have waited so long for this infantry.
The kit should have helmets, shakos and grenadier caps for all models, and if that raises cost (which I'm sure it does), I'm pretty sure we collectors are willing to pay extra on such kit. The first priority here should be quality.
Another issue (which I don't know why hasn't anyone pointed out) is the proportion of figures on the action kit. We have 4 standing (no action!) NCO'S and a mere 2 firing fusiliers per sprue! The numbers should be inverted here. We need a lot of firing poses to build a unit in firing line, 8 per box won't cut it, and 4 NCO's per sprue is overwhelmingly excessive.
You should definitely replace 2 or 3 NCO'S on the sprue for more firing fusiliers - or drop the NCO's all together, there is already a NCO sculpt in the command kit, where it belongs.
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Post by mateus on Mar 22, 2019 15:42:48 GMT
I prefer heads with headgear and neck in one piece. If the headgear comes as a separate piece, like here, you must be very confident in your ability to produce a good fit. Same concern here. The full-head option seems far easier to execute, if the fit on the headgear is not perfect, the result may look atrocious. I know Hat is focused on costs here, but I'd rather pay more for a kit, and have separate full heads for each headgear option, knowing they'll fit nicely on the necks. But then again, if Hat is confident they can deliver a good fit for the separate headgear, without the models looking wonky, then great.
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Post by de Saxe on Mar 22, 2019 15:50:06 GMT
excellent..can't wait for the release..prefer the helmets..
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Post by cpn on Mar 22, 2019 17:02:02 GMT
Hi , Good to see it coming. I join concerns about headgear as it is easier to change full head than only headgear (as a French I know what I talking about!). I support the fact we need actions poses. Finally, you'd better speed because your main challenger HaT announced a wave of Austrian for 2019-2020. Have a great weekend. CPN
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Post by harlow on Mar 22, 2019 17:09:58 GMT
I agree with Mateus doubts. We need more fighting/firing poses than many NCOs in the action-set. The NCO´s can been better integrated in the Command set.
And I would pay also more for double heads which will fit certainly better than separate headgears.
And please a minimum of 36 figures in the marching- and action-set! 48 will been still better! Most collectors will pay certainly more for it than to have many boxes with only few figures.
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Post by mateus on Mar 22, 2019 17:22:23 GMT
Also, there is no drum for the drummer on the schematic of the Command set (!).
These issues aside (full options of heads, proportion of firing/NCO figures on the action set), the sets look great, and I'll sure order myself a good number of each, to completely redo my current Austrian infantry of old Hat and Italeri kits.
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Post by Brian on Mar 22, 2019 22:20:28 GMT
Hi Hat,
I asked you in a earlier post how will you make the Hungarians, new sculpts or rework the scanned German Austrians? Your answer was reworks.
Can you give us any more information on this process? Would this speed things up so that the germans and Hungarians can be made simultaneously?
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Post by plasticpanzers on Mar 22, 2019 23:49:15 GMT
Excellent news! Now I can add a couple more divisions to my Austrian army... I need new eyes....
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Post by Mark Sullivan on Mar 23, 2019 13:10:42 GMT
I think you should stick to two standard bearers, esp as all Austrian Regiments had two standards at least. Looks good but I do like the suggestion to have optional shakos etc in each box. Makes them even more useful/viable. Gleaming figures as ever.
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Post by john the red on Mar 23, 2019 21:01:08 GMT
Hi
Good to see these developing and I hope its not too long til we see them in the shops.
I like the idea of seperate heads or shakos / helmets if there is something to swop. If not, I would suggest simply produce a packet of Austrian German Infantry with Helmets and be done with it.
We can always cut and swop the old fashion way, as and when the Hungarians turn up.
Personally, one flag bearer per spruce (4 per box?) is enough and would prefer a second officer (not starting a new figure which would further delay the project)
cheers
cheers
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Post by cpn on Mar 23, 2019 22:30:17 GMT
Good evening everyone, I just have a question: since the backpacks will be attached (which I prefer),it seems this infantry will be having the swords of the grenadiers . Isn't it wrong? Thanks for reassuring me ... or not. CPN
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