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Post by Dadu Skoupzi on Apr 6, 2019 16:45:39 GMT
I will buy these but I want shakos. And Austrian troops had two standard bearers. It would also be nice to see the Hungarians out soon.
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Post by Wagram 1809 on Apr 7, 2019 21:07:01 GMT
Updated proposal: Figures all with helmets attached. Extra shako heads as can be fit on to sprue. Backpacks to be attached without grenadier option (sword). (8918 already available.) Action box: 2 standing figures (he is not NCO) switched to 1 firing and 1 loading figure. Perfect !
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Post by Roscoe Remington on Apr 8, 2019 7:48:33 GMT
Notes: The Austrian helmets will not look nearly as good if produced face into the mold. Side to the mold with head attached will mean a mold line down the face, but I can live with that. I support whatever approach will deliver the best helmet detail. Shakos and Bearskins look better face into the mold, but the Austrian shako has two peaks/visors which might make it a different matter.
There are too few action figures. Hat is very generous with marching poses but neglects the firing line. If you modify the advancing soldier so that his musket is held even higher up he can also be placed first or second rank in the firing line. Also, the soldier standing at attention is unrealistic as an action figure. He could be useful forming his own unit in reserve, but I won't use him in the firing line. Even if the soldiers are not firing at will I can't imagine anyone standing like that. That pose detracted greatly from the set of Grenzers.
The marching figure with his right arm across his body is executing a maneuver that is performed before marching and would not have been seen in a marching formation. I would be fine with just three marching poses. How about altering the angle of the legs, arms and musket for variety in the future?
Please consider another pose for the firing line--someone reaching into their cartridge box, leveling and/or cocking their musket, or biting a cartridge. Or simply another ramrod pose-- 0ne ramrod raised high,one low! I think it would look nice.
Thank you Hat and fellow forum contributors for considering my suggestions. I can't wait till these are realesed!
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Post by harlow on Apr 8, 2019 14:23:55 GMT
I agree totally with Roscoe.....
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Post by waynew on Apr 8, 2019 15:33:09 GMT
I definitely understand the need and desire for firing and loading figures - as well as a more dynamic (if that be the right word) advancing pose. I might be in the minority but I am a big fan of figures who are standing at attention as troops spend and spent a lot of time waiting to be sent in to combat. At the same time, such a pose - as with marching poses - really don't look good in small numbers. I remember the frustration I used to feel with Airfix sets. As much as I loved the variety and richness of their poses (they set the standard for the time, remember) I was often frustrated that I had to buy several boxes to get enough marchers to make a believable unit marching to battle. Of course, that meant I had humongous firing lines, too - so it wasn't a complete write-off.
It might be too late to really change the configuration of the current set of Austrians - after all, if HaT keeps making these adjustments that never seem to end we might never see the sets produced. Perhaps, the next time, HaT might "split the baby" and include the standing pose in the marching set?
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Post by Graeme on Apr 8, 2019 16:45:17 GMT
Wayne as I understand the situation only two of the four standing to attention figures have been replaced with one firing and one loading figure. Which still leaves two standing figures per sprue. assuming four sprues, that's eight figures per box. I tend to think the standing figure would be better in the marching set in future projects, but if I recall correctly when that was suggested way back when some of the marching fans said 'We don't want it put it in the action set'. What can you do? I agree it might be a bit late for making yet more changes now that most folks issues have been adressed. An interesting observation, the link below shows that HaT first mentioned making a set of Austrians with helmets and a set of Hungarians with shakos on the 15th of February last year but nobody objected to it (Brian was the only person to make any comment at all). People didn't complain about the helmet/shako issue until march 21st this year. I think that HaT's willingness to adress the issues that folks have waited 13 months to raise is pretty impressive but there has to be a limit. They've been asking questions about these sets since november 2017, they have a fair idea what most people want now, enough, get them made. hat.freeforums.net/thread/247/1-72-napoleonic-austrians-answered
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Post by waynew on Apr 8, 2019 22:35:29 GMT
Graeme, totally agree with you on this issue.
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Post by Brian on Apr 14, 2019 23:03:40 GMT
There is no timeline yet for these sets. Hi Hat, Do you have any updates I am Hungary for news (did you see want I did there).
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Post by Forum Admin on Apr 14, 2019 23:21:13 GMT
Hi Hat, Do you have any updates I am Hungary for news (did you see want I did there). We are taking Action on this and the sets are Marching towards completion, but there is no timeline.
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Post by stevo0113 on Apr 27, 2019 8:18:07 GMT
Great every ones a comedian.
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Post by Uthred on Jun 12, 2019 6:28:29 GMT
Earlier poll: First set = Austrian infantry with separate helmet. (Later set of Hungarians with separate shako.) ------------------ 8326 Marching set with 12 figures/sprue, 48 per box. Helmets to be off, backpacks to be on. -------------- 8327 Action set: 12 figures/sprue, 48 per box. --------------- 8328 Command set with mounted officer, marching officer, drummer, NCO and standard bearer: --------------- Please feel free to comment. All suggestions will be considered.
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Post by greentiger on Jun 13, 2019 8:30:31 GMT
As you are seeking opinions I will add my voice to those about the separate heads- personally I don't like sticking anything on - if you are going to insist on separate headgear please make it a whole head with hat- I had a nightmare with the 7YW Prussians and they never looked quite right...
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