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Post by Pat on Mar 24, 2019 19:54:14 GMT
It seems the more I read about infantry uniforms of the Napoleonic wars, the less I know about them.
So can I please ask for help regarding the following sets, or rather their potential.
These are excellent figures, but I try to limit my collection to 1812 to 1815. Any chance to use them for that later period, as French, France's Allies or even France's enemies? Honestly I am having difficulties to spot the pointed lapels and the gaiters don't look that much Hessian to me as well.
If the Dutch wore "Austrian-style shako that sported peaks both front and rear", could the
double as Dutch? The reasoning behind this is that I find the sculpting of the Austrians more attractive. I know the Austrians lack shoulder rolls but not all Dutch had them, but I have no idea whether any Dutch infantry wore the slightly longer gaiters and apparently higher shakos like the figures of set 8027.
I would appreciate your input, and especially hints about straightforward conversions to create common types of troops. Regards, Pat
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Post by waynew on Mar 25, 2019 1:29:09 GMT
Pat, here's a good site for the Belgian/Waterloo Campaign. I'll give you the link to the Dutch section and you can take it from there. centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/unitesNL.phpMy only problem with using the Austrians at this scale - other than the rear "bill" on the shako, might be the gaiters. Paint can cover a whole lot of "sins" if you don't look to close at 1/72 scale. For the Dutch units I've used French painted differently for their line troops, for the Belgian units I've painted British troops with Belgian shakos and for light troops I've used British with stovepipe shakos. I bought several boxes of HaT's Peninsular Brits just for that purpose. I figure to do headswaps on the Belgian shako for some and leave the others with stovepipes to get extra troops and units for my Dutch/Belgian contingent. I hope this helps.
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Post by Graeme on Mar 25, 2019 2:16:59 GMT
Hi Pat. Regarding using the 1805 light infantry for 1812-15, if you haven't already bought the figures you might want to consider HaT's other light infantry set (8042) which is specifically for the 1812-15 period: www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=632The major difference between the two sets is that the 1805 figures wear the pre 1812 jacket which is closed to the middle of the chest but then is cut away to reveal the white waistcoat underneath. It might also have slightly longer coat tails, I'm not sure about that. The 1812-15 figures wear the post 1812 Bardin style jacket which is closed all the way down to the waist, no waistcoat; you can see the difference on the box art pictures. Also the 1812-15 figures wear trousers without gaiters. As Wayne said you can cover things up with paint and the differences in uniform might not bother you if you don't look too close.
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Post by Pat on Mar 27, 2019 19:02:27 GMT
Wayne, Grame, many thanks for taking your time to reply.
It probably as through this forum I heared of the Centjours website which is a goldmine of info. However the more I read, the it seems to boild down to three basic designs of infantry uniforms - French, British, and Russian = Prussian style, with other nations adding the odd detail here or there.
About the pre- and Bardin jackets, I decided not to worry too much about the difference since many figures have poses that do not show that area anyway and the earlier set's sculpting is much more appealing to me.
The gaiters, however, are another story. They are too obvious to my eye to be ignored. Btw I browsed through all the Dutch plates on Centjours but am having a hard time to find any with the short gaiters of HäT set 8025!
Wayne, I'm sorry but I did not understand your comment regarding the shakos. The Dutch seem to wear the shako with peaks both front and rear like the Austrians?
Thanks again!
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