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Post by Brian on May 10, 2019 20:18:22 GMT
Looking at the original masters it looks like the angle the musket has changed , this is the figure which had broken hands, when Hat fixed the broken hands they inadvertently placed the musket to a horizontal position instead of the original 45 degree angle, this makes the two advancing poses look very similar perhaps hat could make this figure carry his musket at 45 degrees again.
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Post by Forum Admin on May 10, 2019 23:05:51 GMT
This is the fixed figure. We will be able to see more once this figure is printed for sizing.
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Post by John the red on May 11, 2019 15:48:31 GMT
Well done, pleased to see Hungarians being tackled at last.
I ll take it you ll address the correct trousers etc
Re the poses, may I suggest something more like the advancing poses in Set 8233 Landwehr, which look bit more convincing and the running forward figure is bit more lively. Alternatively what about another loading figure, such as one reaching into cartridge box.
I d rather have Hungarian Grenadiers and Fusiliers in the same box than not at all but the ideal is seperate sets.
Whilst these have shakos, there is a case to go for the Helmet instead, covering the 1800 - 1809 campaigns. This is a set not covered before. The Hat Grenzers set, which I like, can be painted as Hungarians for the later period 1809 - 15. However, I ll buy them which ever option is selected
I look forward to seeing the Command options, opportunity for some new poses for officers and NCOs?
cheers
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Post by Brian on May 16, 2019 20:30:09 GMT
Excellent the advancing figure looks at lot better now I look forward to more updates.
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Post by harlow on May 18, 2019 14:14:01 GMT
I agree with John the Red: the advancing poses of Austrian Landwehr set are far more convincing and lively. I doesn´t understand why the soldier aren´t looking straight forward.
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Post by mikem on May 21, 2019 7:41:46 GMT
That is what the "Shoulder Arms" position is for! Not necessarily; each position has it's own use and purpose in the manual of arms - "Shoulder Arms" would be moving from point A to point B; when imminent contact is expected troops could be placed in the "Port Arms" position or "Ready/Present Arms" which would make the weapon with bayonet more readily available if needed. Both are valid and useful poses depicting various positions in the MoA. "Port Arms" was not a normal drill position in the Napoleonic period. For more modern conflicts, you are correct. Even in the War between the States, the standard position for the rear rank when the order was given to "Charge Bayonets", was "Right Shoulder Shift". According to the Prussian 1812 manual, the ready position in the attack was "zur Attacke das Gewehr rechts", which is "Trail Arms" with the bayonet elevated, as portrayed well by HäT in their Prussian Line & Reserve infantry sets. The position of "Charge Bayonet" or "Fällt's Gewehr" was only taken at between 15 and 5 paces from the enemy, and only by the first two ranks, with the 3rd rank, if present, remaining at the trail. The bayonets of the 2nd rank were presented between the front rank soldiers, and muskets were cocked at this point. If the enemy stood, a volley was fired from the hip just before contact. If they fled, the line halted on command and immediately commenced a "Fire at Will" or "Bataillenfeuer". If attacking in column, this would be the point where it would deploy to both flanks for the firefight.
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Post by waynew on May 23, 2019 15:18:36 GMT
I guess I stand corrected then. That's what I get for writing off the top of my head from memory and experience instead of checking out the links for drill on TMP and other places. I've seen pictures in some of my reference books of Napoleonic troops at port, but you've taken the time and trouble to check out the manual of arms so.. I still like the pose, even if it isn't technically correct. Thanks for the info.
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