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Post by designteam on Jun 15, 2020 6:15:06 GMT
The maximum size of the sprue is outlined in red. The sprue can hold a maximum of 6 figures (with hats or without hats) and 6 backpacks or a combination of lesser figures (with or without hats) and backpacks and extra hats. Action sprue Marching sprue
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 10:34:45 GMT
Thanks for the opportunity. Definitely not fewer figures please. I realise that it was not presented as an option, but what about backpacks attached to the figures and full compliment of alternative hats? Regards, James
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Post by Stan on Jun 15, 2020 11:09:24 GMT
Amazing to see these after ten years! First of all my compliments! They look great! I hope the faces will be more characterised? These look still very undefined. What exactly is the question? I would love to see 6 figures on the sprue and the option of shako's, helmet and bearskin! That's all I need for my 1809 campaign and offers other buyers to basically cover the whole period from 1805 (with a bit of freedom or even 1800) up to 1813/14 ! I am very pro separate headgear! But if we have to sacrifice one figure to get all headgear on board I see go for it! Well done and please keep us posted! All the best, Stan The maximum size of the sprue is outlined in red. The sprue can hold a maximum of 6 figures (with hats or without hats) and 6 backpacks or a combination of lesser figures (with or without hats) and backpacks and extra hats. Action sprue Marching sprue
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Post by rahway on Jun 15, 2020 15:21:14 GMT
Which six hats should go with the six figures?
I would prefer six helmets. A configuration of one or two bearskins, with the remainder being helmets, would also be acceptable.
The separate packs will make it easy to cut off the swords for the Fusiliers.
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Post by designteam on Jun 15, 2020 18:24:33 GMT
As it is configured now, there isn't enough room for any of the spare hats. In order to make room for any of the spare hats, the backpacks will have to be molded on the figures or there has to be less than 6 figures on the sprue. So we are asking the forumers what they would prefer! Amazing to see these after ten years! First of all my compliments! They look great! I hope the faces will be more characterised? These look still very undefined. What exactly is the question? I would love to see 6 figures on the sprue and the option of shako's, helmet and bearskin! That's all I need for my 1809 campaign and offers other buyers to basically cover the whole period from 1805 (with a bit of freedom or even 1800) up to 1813/14 ! I am very pro separate headgear! Well done and please keep us posted! All the best, Stan
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Post by designteam on Jun 15, 2020 18:25:54 GMT
Which six hats should go with the six figures? I would prefer six helmets. A configuration of one or two bearskins, with the remainder being helmets, would also be acceptable. The separate packs will make it easy to cut off the swords for the Fusiliers. The option of 6 figures wearing helmets with separate packs is certainly doable.
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Post by designteam on Jun 15, 2020 18:27:54 GMT
Thanks for the opportunity. Definitely not fewer figures please. I realise that it was not presented as an option, but what about backpacks attached to the figures and full compliment of alternative hats? Regards, James If the backpacks were molded on the figures, it may be possible to put up to 12 pieces of headwear on the sprue. Which 12 would you prefer?
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Post by rbhjr on Jun 15, 2020 18:40:05 GMT
Since each set contains at least one duplicate pose on each sprue, I would go with 5 figures per sprue (15 per box), separate backpacks, and extra hats (helmet, shako & bearskin).
The additional utility of this option to use these for 3 different type of troops far outweighs the loss of 3 (already redundant) standing at attention or marching figures per box.
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Post by designteam on Jun 15, 2020 19:03:45 GMT
Since each set contains at least one duplicate pose on each sprue, I would go with 5 figures per sprue (15 per box), separate backpacks, and extra hats (helmet, shako & bearskin). The additional utility of this option to use these for 3 different type of troops far outweighs the loss of 3 (already redundant) standing at attention or marching figures per box. So this would mean a sprue with 5 figures with helmets on their heads, 5 separate backpacks and 3 shakoes and 3 bearskins (approximately).
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Post by rbhjr on Jun 15, 2020 19:17:13 GMT
Also like to add how awesome it is to see these laid out in 1/32; THANK YOU!
Others may disagree, but I think making these figures with swapable hats is great! Not only does it allow flexibility to use the alternative hats supplied, it allows for easy conversion to Jager, EKL 1st bat or other volunteer units & later-period landwehr by simply adding a Corsican hat.
I cannot wait to purchase these to complete my 1/32 Battle of Wagram.
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Post by rahway on Jun 15, 2020 20:07:40 GMT
What I think they are proposing is to make the figures with integral helmets. If you want to substitute shakos or bearskins you will have to cut the helmet off.
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Post by rbhjr on Jun 15, 2020 21:30:29 GMT
Since each set contains at least one duplicate pose on each sprue, I would go with 5 figures per sprue (15 per box), separate backpacks, and extra hats (helmet, shako & bearskin). The additional utility of this option to use these for 3 different type of troops far outweighs the loss of 3 (already redundant) standing at attention or marching figures per box. So this would mean a sprue with 5 figures with helmets on their heads, 5 separate backpacks and 3 shakoes and 3 bearskins (approximately). “helmets molded on” does make for a more difficult Choice (vs swappable heads), but I still think 2x “at attention” figures per sprue is 1x too many, so I would still go for 5 figures/sprue with 3 extra shakes & 3 extra bearskins.
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Post by Cole on Jun 15, 2020 23:00:52 GMT
I think I would also be more inclined to go for fewer standing at attention figures if it gave us the option to swap heads. I’d love to have some helmets and grenadier bearskins. the shakos look great and I like the versatility, but if it came down to it, the helmets are more iconic and span a wider time period.
Figures look great! I’m super excited these are coming out!
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Post by Tripod on Jun 15, 2020 23:43:20 GMT
Why not a separate sprue with all the headwear? It shouldn't be too hard to fit in the box,or is the tooling cost an issue?
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Post by designteam on Jun 15, 2020 23:51:25 GMT
What I think they are proposing is to make the figures with integral helmets. If you want to substitute shakos or bearskins you will have to cut the helmet off. That is one of the possibilities.
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Post by designteam on Jun 15, 2020 23:54:11 GMT
5 figures/sprue with 6 extra headwear can be looked into. With 3 sprues per box, that would be 9 extra shakos and 9 extra bearskins per box. So this would mean a sprue with 5 figures with helmets on their heads, 5 separate backpacks and 3 shakoes and 3 bearskins (approximately). “helmets molded on” does make for a more difficult Choice (vs swappable heads), but I still think 2x “at attention” figures per sprue is 1x too many, so I would still go for 5 figures/sprue with 3 extra shakes & 3 extra bearskins.
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Post by designteam on Jun 15, 2020 23:55:19 GMT
That is not one of the options we are looking at. Why not a separate sprue with all the headwear? It shouldn't be too hard to fit in the box,or is the tooling cost an issue?
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Post by Stan on Jun 16, 2020 6:06:36 GMT
Ah I get it! Thank you! Well I think the separate backpacks really are an improvement for the sculpting so I would stick to that. I dont mind less figures, would that be minus 3 in a box? Fine with me. I'll just buy more boxes. Hope you manage to find a way to have all the 3 types of headgear out there or at least available :-D Best, Stan <abbr title="Jun 15, 2020 20:24:33 GMT 2" data-timestamp="1592245473000" class="o-timestamp time">Jun 15, 2020 20:24:33 GMT 2</abbr> designteam said:As it is configured now, there isn't enough room for any of the spare hats. In order to make room for any of the spare hats, the backpacks will have to be molded on the figures or there has to be less than 6 figures on the sprue. So we are asking the forumers what they would prefer!
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Post by Stan on Jun 16, 2020 6:09:13 GMT
I agree! Since each set contains at least one duplicate pose on each sprue, I would go with 5 figures per sprue (15 per box), separate backpacks, and extra hats (helmet, shako & bearskin). The additional utility of this option to use these for 3 different type of troops far outweighs the loss of 3 (already redundant) standing at attention or marching figures per box.
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Post by Stan on Jun 16, 2020 6:12:13 GMT
Also like to add how awesome it is to see these laid out in 1/32; THANK YOU! Others may disagree, but I think making these figures with swapable hats is great! Not only does it allow flexibility to use the alternative hats supplied, it allows for easy conversion to Jager, EKL 1st bat or other volunteer units & later-period landwehr by simply adding a Corsican hat. I cannot wait to purchase these to complete my 1/32 Battle of Wagram. Hahah fully agree with you Rbhjr! Though I will have lots to paint still for Wagram, Aspern-Essling and other battles of 1809 it is at least nice to stock all the figures haha! ;-) I am really excited that these will be done in 1/32! Its been a wait and looks like it will be worth it! I think Hats off are nice indeed, just like with the seven years war Prussian it really makes them functional.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2020 9:32:21 GMT
Thanks for the opportunity. Definitely not fewer figures please. I realise that it was not presented as an option, but what about backpacks attached to the figures and full compliment of alternative hats? Regards, James If the backpacks were molded on the figures, it may be possible to put up to 12 pieces of headwear on the sprue. Which 12 would you prefer? Thank you for replying. In that case my preference would be for backpacks and helmets moulded on the figures and six each of shakos/bearskins as optional headwear. Kind regards, James
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2020 9:36:47 GMT
I seem to be being out-voted, but will have one more go anyway (ha, ha!)
To me trading fewer figures per box for more headgear is a really poor second option. Headgear I can mould with modelling clay if really necessary, but I leave the moulding of figures to the experts!!
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Post by rbhjr on Jun 16, 2020 13:56:40 GMT
I seem to be being out-voted, but will have one more go anyway (ha, ha!) To me trading fewer figures per box for more headgear is a really poor second option. Headgear I can mould with modelling clay if really necessary, but I leave the moulding of figures to the experts!! If not for the fact that the “lost” figures will be redundant “at attention” and marching poses I would agree with you. But, with all courtesy, I think the added flexibility to use these set’s extra hats and backpacks with swords to create German line in helmet & Shako plus german Grenadiers (which I doubt will ever be produced on their own) is worth ditching an extra “at attention” and marching pose per sprue. Cheers
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Post by Stan on Jun 16, 2020 20:49:22 GMT
I cannot hold myself back from asking this but, Is a set of Hungarians still in the pipeline or on the shelve? And will there be a set of Grenadiers or are those now combined in this set since there are bearskins? I guess that would also work, in addition, a set of Hungarians would be great with additional headgear to make either Grenzers or Hungarian Grenadiers and fusiliers.
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Post by designteam on Jun 16, 2020 22:37:05 GMT
I cannot hold myself back from asking this but, Is a set of Hungarians still in the pipeline or on the shelve? And will there be a set of Grenadiers or are those now combined in this set since there are bearskins? I guess that would also work, in addition, a set of Hungarians would be great with additional headgear to make either Grenzers or Hungarian Grenadiers and fusiliers. That's entirely unknown at this time. It depends on too many factors to tell, one of which is if the Austrians fly off the shelves. But I don't think any decision on this set should be based on future predictions.
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