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Post by paintdog on Jul 22, 2020 11:34:03 GMT
The eternal quest for SYW cavalry......
From a suggestion of a smart chap @ Bennos, I acquired boxes of Zvevda's GNW Swedish Dragoons & Nap. Saxon Cuirassiers.
Enter: Dr Frankenstein. Head & legs of the Dragoons, body & horse of the Cuirassiers & *Presto* SYW Austrian cuirassiers.Throw in some carving off of superfluous detail & excess horse flesh.
Three mostly done, 9 to start.
NB this does NOT get HaT off the hook. This approach is costly, time consuming and not 100% historically accurate.
I'm still hoping for HaT to come to the SYW cavalry party.
donald
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 1:25:10 GMT
Brilliant conversions Donald! Keep at 'em too, you terrier, you.  You could send Hat an example. With computer design, they could scan it to mock-up the design, making the necessary adjustments for improved historical accuracy... Regards, James |
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Post by paintdog on Jul 23, 2020 5:03:01 GMT
Thanks, James. As you know, I'm about "middlin'" when it comes to historical accuracy. I prefer my Napoleonic Old Guard *not* to come with laser guns but neither do I count gaiter buttons on such figures.
So, historical inaccuracies are mainly the horse tack which is not quite right. The figures don't have the bound pigtails they should have. So, could be better but I can live with them.
I'd expect HaT to do their usual perfectly accurate job if/when they tackle the subject.
donald
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Post by minuteman on Jul 23, 2020 7:25:13 GMT
These are looking very convincing as SYW cuirassiers, donald. I may have to try this conversion myself! To date, I have experimented either with a 'hat swap' on the Zvezda Napoleonic Saxon cuirassier - HaT Prussian tricorne in place of helmet, which I then use to put on my HaT Napoleonic Austrian cuirassiers, who have the smaller old style helmet - which looks OK; or the same, but mounting the figure on an Italeri Prussian Cuirassier horse, with some additional Milliput holsters and horse furniture.
But what you are doing here is much more 'Dr Frankenstein'!
I think using the Zvezda Swedish cavalry (hat/head and lower body) looks very effective. I use the Swedish set for a lot of first-half-of-C18th cavalry, and it is a good set, marred only by the 'flying-horse' syndrome. I do wish sculptors would produce horses in trotting or cantering poses, not at full gallop.
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Post by paintdog on Jul 23, 2020 8:04:29 GMT
I think using the Zvezda Swedish cavalry..... And their Russian GNW for French SYW cavalry. The horse furniture isn't quite right but the "old-fashioned" uniforms suit the rather o-f'd French.
Aah but horse poses. I shan't argue you with this. I think you may have posted something on the 'other place' about standing horses & cavalrymen with drawn sabres on shoulders?
I think only HaT really would do this. And, I wish they would.
donald
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Post by minuteman on Jul 23, 2020 9:48:40 GMT
I think using the Zvezda Swedish cavalry.....
I think only HaT really would do this. And, I wish they would.
donald
Yes, HaT could do this really well. Having made some great infantry sets it is but a small step to make some great SYW cavalry. Two sets would be enough - Cuirassiers and Dragoons, big horses and figures compatible with the infantry figures ie: around 24mm. Thousands of wargamers and collectors would be very grateful. |
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Post by raph86 on Jul 23, 2020 17:00:40 GMT
Hello, what a beautiful job of transformation, it is very successful congratulations.
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Post by Malcolm on Aug 3, 2020 8:46:34 GMT
I am surprised that you have gone to all this trouble just because the coat tails are a little short. I surpose that for Prussian Cuirassiers it would not matter since their coat was shorter. However, I find it strange that you do not use the general mounted Officer with a substituted Trumpet holding arm as the Muscian for your Austrian/Hungarian Hussars since I think that the Muscian for these regiments was dressed in a more German style: Long Tailed Coat and Tricorn Hat.
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Post by paintdog on Aug 3, 2020 10:08:30 GMT
However, I find it strange that you do not use the general mounted Officer with a substituted Trumpet holding arm as the Muscian for your Austrian/Hungarian Hussars since I think that the Muscian for these regiments was dressed in a more German style: Long Tailed Coat and Tricorn Hat. Thank you for the tip about the trumpeter. I'll certainly do this as I think I have some spare, trumpet holding arms from some HaT Nap. cavalry sets.
"I am surprised that you have gone to all this trouble just because the coat tails are a little short. I surpose that for Prussian Cuirassiers it would not matter since their coat was shorter."
Well, it's a hobby after all. Some take historical accuracy much further than I do....some less. I think I'm somewhere in the middle in that my Napoleonic Prussians don't have any Tiger tanks, whilst a few less or more gaiter buttons on an Old Gaurd grenadier doesn't worry me.
Chacun à son goût.
donald
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Post by waynew on Aug 3, 2020 16:45:25 GMT
Well, Paint Dog, I won't mention that the nose hairs aren't trimmed on a couple of the figures. I have it on good authority the Austrians were sticklers for neatly trimmed nose hairs. Perhaps at this scale it doesn't matter? ;-)
Great job!
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Post by bongman on Aug 3, 2020 19:45:24 GMT
 Well, Paint Dog, I won't mention that the nose hairs aren't trimmed on a couple of the figures. I have it on good authority the Austrians were sticklers for neatly trimmed nose hairs. Perhaps at this scale it doesn't matter? ;-) Great job!
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