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Post by cpn on Oct 5, 2020 16:44:24 GMT
Hi everyone,
What a great surprise coming back from work to see the box of 10 boxes of dragoons.
I initially ordered 6 lights and 4 heavies.
I didn't get any bonus figures but a sampler box instead which is perfectly fine for me.
I have noticed the heavies sword are not moulded long enough. I know I can handle it but it might be tricky for some of us.
Overall well detailed horsemen in red plastic. Hopefully Hat will not go to crowdfunding again as they don't need this to create nice figures in a better pace.
Next challenge = AWI range.
Cheers everyone.
CPN
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Post by Suetonius Falbo on Oct 5, 2020 18:31:07 GMT
Yes, same here!: A sampler box instead of bonus figures. Nice to have what amounts to 2/3 of a box extra each of the two kinds, but ever so slightly disappointed not to get the bonus officers. I wonder whether they even exist beyond the prototypes we've seen online.
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Post by Gaspode on Oct 6, 2020 16:15:48 GMT
I received mine as well. Chuffed. Thanks, HaT!
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Post by waynew on Oct 6, 2020 22:07:14 GMT
Received mine Saturday - what a treat.
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Post by Savoia Marchetti on Oct 6, 2020 23:05:42 GMT
I've seen pictures of these new British Cavalry troops on PSR; very nice figures (but I'll not buy them,I'm waiting for Austrians and ACW Infantry), however I think they can work well with old Airfix British Infantry (Napoleonic), I've that in the same red plastic. In general I've noticed that sculpting of these new sets remind to old napoleonic Airfix sets, and probably also the upcoming Austrians will. Sets of last year (7y war Austrians) already were in this style, isn't it!?
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Post by Brian on Oct 6, 2020 23:24:08 GMT
Received mine early Tuesday morning first impressions both in bright red tradition type plastic definitely not the rubber type, all figures will need gluing to their horses and received sampler set instead of metal bonus figures which I am happy with. The British Light Dragoons look very good troopers are 24mm in height measured from base of foot to top of head, nice sturdy looking mounts, extra arms with swords etc. all good. The British Heavy Dragoons are not perfect the troopers for some reason are different sizes one is 23mm another 21mm and two 20mm the problem is much less noticeable when they are seated as horses are a good size for heavies, extra arms with swords could be slightly longer but are not to bad. Plastic Soldier Review have just posted pictures. Light DragoonsHeavy Dragoons |
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Post by waynew on Oct 7, 2020 20:13:17 GMT
I'm not nitpicking - the difference in size isn't that bad looking at it in person, we've seen worse from other companies. The red plastic is great for non-painters. I remember so many years ago when I started painting because so many companies were doing their figures in yellow or gray. Now, thirty-five years and something like 18,000 plus painted 1/72 figures later (with I don't know how many in queue waiting) the companies are starting to produce their figures in a corresponding colored plastic. I know the British cavalry and artillery didn't have red tunics, but when you're setting your armies up on the floor or table and don't want to paint, British red, French blue, etc. is an easy way of telling "good guys" from "bad guys."
But hey, better late than never. I'm too far gone to stop painting my guys now. But I think it's great to get a new generation into the hobby who just want to set them up and knock them down. I'm sure that's how many of us got started.
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Post by Malcolm on Oct 9, 2020 8:43:11 GMT
Just got mine. Have any of you noticed that the sampler box is a "nod and a wink" to the old Atlantic style with a picture of painted examples on the front and the box is labelled "Hatlantic". This weekend I will get the figures off the sprue and have a closer look with a magnifying glass "my eyes arn't what they used to be. Then it's full speed ahead with the Light Dragoons, 1 box will be Tarleton's British Legion in green uniforms with 2 Airfix British Infantry Mounted Officers to represent the company of so called "Hussars". Then on to decide which figures can best be converted to Mounted Rocket Troops for my British Peninsular War army that was seriously short of cavalry until now. It's been a long wait, I naively thought when I first signed up for this Crowd Funded project that I would receive them before Christmas 2018. Now Hat when are you going to release a 5.5 inch Howitzer with a Napoleonic British Foot Artillery crew in Stovepipe hats. I already have enough 6 and 9 pounder cannons but could really use this howitzer and then swop around the crew figures to have both foot and horse artillery. A question for the experts, was this the same model howitzer that was used during the AWI? If so that would make it even more appealing.
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Post by cpn on Oct 9, 2020 13:56:31 GMT
Just got mine. Have any of you noticed that the sampler box is a "nod and a wink" to the old Atlantic style with a picture of painted examples on the front and the box is labelled "Hatlantic". This weekend I will get the figures off the sprue and have a closer look with a magnifying glass "my eyes arn't what they used to be. Then it's full speed ahead with the Light Dragoons, 1 box will be Tarleton's British Legion in green uniforms with 2 Airfix British Infantry Mounted Officers to represent the company of so called "Hussars". Then on to decide which figures can best be converted to Mounted Rocket Troops for my British Peninsular War army that was seriously short of cavalry until now. It's been a long wait, I naively thought when I first signed up for this Crowd Funded project that I would receive them before Christmas 2018. Now Hat when are you going to release a 5.5 inch Howitzer with a Napoleonic British Foot Artillery crew in Stovepipe hats. I already have enough 6 and 9 pounder cannons but could really use this howitzer and then swop around the crew figures to have both foot and horse artillery. A question for the experts, was this the same model howitzer that was used during the AWI? If so that would make it even more appealing. Hi Malcom, I support your ideas and I believe the 5,5 will do the trick as this scale. At least for me, I would the same as you. Enjoy your weekend. Kind regards. CPN |
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Post by Brian on Oct 9, 2020 23:17:47 GMT
I have checked my measurements and I can confirm the British Light Dragoons are 24mm in height measured from base of foot to top of head (not top of hat which is 25mm), the men and horses (perhaps slightly big for Light cavalry) do not seem obviously over sized and are perfectly usable.
The British Heavy Dragoons have one pose which is 23.5mm and looks great as a heavy, unfortunately the other three poses are small 21mm and two 20mm, the horses are a good size for heavies slightly bigger than the light horses, when mounted the problem is much less noticeable although the legs seem weedy, I am wondering if I can make them larger with green stuff or I can perform some legs swaps to improve the look, some of the swords are slightly short but no worse than many other cavalry sets, you can always replace swords with a staple cut to size.
None of these alterations are ideal but I have four boxes so I will get some good squadrons out of them.
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Post by csloan on Oct 10, 2020 16:35:34 GMT
I got my Lights and Heavyies yesterday, along with a sampler box, too. It's been so long I'd completely forgotten that I'd supported the crowdfunding in the first place - so it was a pleasant surprise. I have to say, I don't know how I feel about them. As much as I love Hat (I've got every set in the Napoleonic range), these feel almost rushed (if something that took this long can be called "rushed"): the plastic is closer to what I have come to expect from HaT and is softer than I like. Poses are pretty good and there is very little flashing on the molds, so that's very positive. But the biggest off-putter are the boxes, in fact - which shouldn't be a big deal, I know, but still it is; I've always really enjoyed the box art (with few exceptions) from Hat, particularly once they switched to yellow boxes with white backgrounds. But these...you can see that the graphics were overlaid onto another box, or perhaps just a generic box - the Lights graphic actually cuts off part of the "Hat" logo in the upper left corner of the box. On the end panels on all three boxes, you can actually still see the burned-in image of the tape that was put on the box to hold the white "8307 Napoleonic British Light Dragoons" label in place (same for the Heavies and the Sampler)! The worst, however, is the sampler box, which in addition to the burned-in tape marks, looks like a cheap third-world knock-off - an effect increased by the Hindi(?) text, a second text I can't identify, and Egyptian hieroglyphics! Someone in the thread noted the "nod" to old Atlantic style, with the "Hatlantic" logo and all...but I just thought it made them look cheap. They also arrived in a package post-marked Armourfast in London, which confused me, because I couldn't remember ordering from Armourfast (not that it's totally impossible, but...)
All in all, I'm not unhappy (certainly glad to have more British Cav) but it's not the level of over-all quality I have always appreciated about Hat.
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Post by bongman on Oct 10, 2020 18:50:28 GMT
The sampler box is a "nod" to this old Atlantic big box from the 70's.   |
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Post by waynew on Oct 10, 2020 19:17:41 GMT
I got my Lights and Heavyies yesterday, along with a sampler box, too. It's been so long I'd completely forgotten that I'd supported the crowdfunding in the first place - so it was a pleasant surprise. I have to say, I don't know how I feel about them. As much as I love Hat (I've got every set in the Napoleonic range), these feel almost rushed (if something that took this long can be called "rushed"): the plastic is closer to what I have come to expect from HaT and is softer than I like. Poses are pretty good and there is very little flashing on the molds, so that's very positive. But the biggest off-putter are the boxes, in fact - which shouldn't be a big deal, I know, but still it is; I've always really enjoyed the box art (with few exceptions) from Hat, particularly once they switched to yellow boxes with white backgrounds. But these...you can see that the graphics were overlaid onto another box, or perhaps just a generic box - the Lights graphic actually cuts off part of the "Hat" logo in the upper left corner of the box. On the end panels on all three boxes, you can actually still see the burned-in image of the tape that was put on the box to hold the white "8307 Napoleonic British Light Dragoons" label in place (same for the Heavies and the Sampler)! The worst, however, is the sampler box, which in addition to the burned-in tape marks, looks like a cheap third-world knock-off - an effect increased by the Hindi(?) text, a second text I can't identify, and Egyptian hieroglyphics! Someone in the thread noted the "nod" to old Atlantic style, with the "Hatlantic" logo and all...but I just thought it made them look cheap. They also arrived in a package post-marked Armourfast in London, which confused me, because I couldn't remember ordering from Armourfast (not that it's totally impossible, but...) All in all, I'm not unhappy (certainly glad to have more British Cav) but it's not the level of over-all quality I have always appreciated about Hat. I'm glad you're not unhappy; I'd hate to read your comments if you ever WERE unhappy...  |
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Post by Jordan on Oct 12, 2020 19:34:31 GMT
Well, HAT has given me a nice (Canadian) Thanksgiving Surprise. My four boxes of Lights and two boxes of Heavies came in the mail today, along with an extra box of the Cavalry Sampler set. I remember not being able to by additional box of Lights due to the shipping rates (Canada was consider to be be in the "rest of the world" - where I think I am a "point blank"* catapult launch away from HAT HQ, but with the free Sampler set it looks like my token Spanish Light Cavalry or Spanish or Portuguese Cavalry units will not be painted.
It is kind of funny, but this process has taken so long that I have forgotten what I was going to use the Heavies for, besides add variation to the Heavy Dragoon set...
Jordan.
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Post by camelusmc on Oct 13, 2020 16:21:42 GMT
Still eagerly awaiting my shipment here in the Sunshine State. Every time my Ring doorbell goes off I get excited ... only to be sad upon returning home to not find them. I remain ever vigilant and hopeful that today is the day.
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Post by marcozappa on Oct 15, 2020 16:47:22 GMT
Maybe they are arrived ( almost sure) at my mom's home...but I'm in Covid-19 quarantine now...
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Post by waynew on Oct 15, 2020 21:06:49 GMT
Maybe they are arrived ( almost sure) at my mom's home...but I'm in Covid-19 quarantine now... Sorry to hear you are in quarantine. I was sick with the virus in August, still recovering though no longer contagious. Best wishes you don't get it or you're like my wife, who tested positive for antibodies but unlike me only remembers a slight fever for about 24 hours. Again, best wishes and prayers. |
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Post by marcozappa on Oct 16, 2020 7:08:20 GMT
Maybe they are arrived ( almost sure) at my mom's home...but I'm in Covid-19 quarantine now... Sorry to hear you are in quarantine. I was sick with the virus in August, still recovering though no longer contagious. Best wishes you don't get it or you're like my wife, who tested positive for antibodies but unlike me only remembers a slight fever for about 24 hours. Again, best wishes and prayers. Many thanks Waynew for your gentle words... I'm OK and my family too. Ciao ! |
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Post by Graeme on Oct 18, 2020 2:55:54 GMT
Still eagerly awaiting my shipment here in the Sunshine State. Well I received mine in the Sunshine State but I think it's a different Sunshine State. I noted peoples comments about the heavies but I have to say that I don't see any problems that are really obvious when opening the box.One figure is a bit smaller than the others and one looks like he might be smaller but he's leaning forward so I believe he's actually a comparable height. In an ideal world the heavies might have the heft of the lights figures and vice versa but they're not going to be Brigaded together so, no problem. I'm glad that this almost lost set was revived; I think the heavies are fine and the lights are very nice figures indeed. Thank You HaT. Like Jordan my order was somewhat limited by the cost with the "rest of the world" postage so the sampler set is a very nice bonus. Some of those extra light cavalry figures will probably become Mounted Racket Corps and Willliam Polehill with the 16th at Waterloo. Perhaps some of the 23rd, I don't know. |
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Post by Allan on Oct 20, 2020 16:19:52 GMT
I have checked my measurements and I can confirm the British Light Dragoons are 24mm in height measured from base of foot to top of head (not top of hat which is 25mm), the men and horses (perhaps slightly big for Light cavalry) do not seem obviously over sized and are perfectly usable. The British Heavy Dragoons have one pose which is 23.5mm and looks great as a heavy, unfortunately the other three poses are small 21mm and two 20mm, the horses are a good size for heavies slightly bigger than the light horses, when mounted the problem is much less noticeable although the legs seem weedy, I am wondering if I can make them larger with green stuff or I can perform some legs swaps to improve the look, some of the swords are slightly short but no worse than many other cavalry sets, you can always replace swords with a staple cut to size. None of these alterations are ideal but I have four boxes so I will get some good squadrons out of them. i have to agree not the best set from Hat, I loved the Austrians(32 Boxes) and the light dragoons(8 Boxes), but very disappointed with the heavy dragoons. I bought 6 boxes of them and every box had three figures in each box missing the plumes of their headdress. I can handle some size differences in the figures but the heavy horses are very spindly. Glad to see hat back on track but need to keep an eye on mold quality if parts are not being molded as it should be bfn Allan |
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Post by marcozappa on Oct 24, 2020 8:24:31 GMT
Ok Hat...I' ve got the dragoons in my hand now...yeah !!
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