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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 7, 2017 0:36:31 GMT
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Post by traveller1865 on Nov 7, 2017 6:20:18 GMT
fantastic!! just hope they won't be 25-26mm like the Prussians!
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 7, 2017 7:17:13 GMT
fantastic!! just hope they won't be 25-26mm like the Prussians! What set of figures do you want these 7YW Austrians to match?
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Post by Andrew Hughes on Nov 7, 2017 8:45:47 GMT
They look great!! Well done.
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Post by borodino on Nov 7, 2017 8:50:04 GMT
I look foward to them
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 7, 2017 9:19:56 GMT
I would like these figures to match the Revell SYW Austrian Infantry. That set had Advancing and Marching Grenadiers while all the Musketeers were in Firing Line. With your figures I can finally have a Grenadier Firing Line and Musketeers Marching and Advancing. I also need quite a few Musketeer Musicians. As your Grenadiers do not wear the Belly Box unlike the Revell examples, I will need to do a bit of research to see which are the appropriate regiments and facing colours.
Best regards,
Malcolm
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Post by paintdog on Nov 7, 2017 12:25:56 GMT
fantastic!! just hope they won't be 25-26mm like the Prussians! What set of figures do you want these 7YW Austrians to match? I think it would be a mistake if your SYW Austrians were not a similar size to your SYW Prussians.
donald
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Post by traveller1865 on Nov 7, 2017 13:46:36 GMT
What set of figures do you want these 7YW Austrians to match? I think it would be a mistake if your SYW Austrians were not a similar size to your SYW Prussians.
donald
You make a good point Donald, this presents some problems for collectors, those who have invested in the HaT and Revell and maybe Zvezda SYW Prussians probably want the Austrians in the same size, whereas me personally would like them to be somewhat smaller size and to fit with RSM95 metal figures and maybe other normal sized 1/72 plastic figures in the future.
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Post by John the Red on Nov 7, 2017 19:29:59 GMT
Hi. Brilliant news. Just what my big pile of 7YW HaT Prussians need, an opponent. Dare we hope it won't be a long wait and chance of some cavalry to go with them. Kuriassiers are not available in plastic or perhaps dragons. Would do for number of nations in this period as not sure differences were that noticeable. Cheers
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 7, 2017 22:52:02 GMT
...and please suggest some possible bonus figures.
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Post by richard on Nov 7, 2017 23:19:25 GMT
Liking the look of these Hat! Bonus figure-what about a dramatic casualty pose?
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Post by richard on Nov 7, 2017 23:21:32 GMT
And annoyingly, you've got no choice but to go for the slightly larger size scale to match your SYW Prussians, along with every other SYW set by Revell and Zvezda of which they are all too big!
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 7, 2017 23:26:24 GMT
And annoyingly, you've got no choice but to go for the slightly larger size scale to match your SYW Prussians, along with every other SYW set by Revell and Zvezda of which they are all too big! Could always go a size between the "regular" 1/72 figure size and the bigger Revell/Zvezda size?
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Post by paintdog on Nov 7, 2017 23:33:11 GMT
And annoyingly, you've got no choice but to go for the slightly larger size scale to match your SYW Prussians, along with every other SYW set by Revell and Zvezda of which they are all too big! Could always go a size between the "regular" 1/72 figure size and the bigger Revell/Zvezda size? Compromises *do* risk alienating everyone........but I personally would be happy with this.
donald
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 7, 2017 23:34:40 GMT
We should set up a poll on this to see how the wind blows!
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Post by richard on Nov 7, 2017 23:38:01 GMT
Alas you will never win this one! If you go for the larger size it fits in with the current SYW range, but if you go for a smaller size then they can be mixed in with other periods and be used for further conversions etc. And the size in between? Maybe they'll fit in with all sets, maybe they'll fit in with no sets...tough choice! Either way, I think Revell need to answer for their crimes against accurate scale when they created their SYW Prussians!
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Post by hoosierdaddy on Nov 8, 2017 3:23:07 GMT
This is great news indeed! Huzzah! Bonus figures .... hummmm .... how about a few Hungarian uniformed musketeers or Croat skirmishers to tide us over until full sets of them are available? A mounted Officer looking forward, with a variety of right arms (straight down from the shoulder, bent at elbow with fist on hip, holding a partially unfolded map, reaching for his hat, and/or pointing off in the distance would be very welcome). He'd make an excellent Aide-de-Camp or Brigadier! I do hope that you do make them compatible with the SYW Prussian Infantry! Having the opposition being the same size in critical for "the look of the thing".
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Post by borodino on Nov 8, 2017 22:51:49 GMT
Foot general would make nice bonus figurines
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Post by aggiejohn on Dec 6, 2017 15:32:30 GMT
I have to say. These look great. I am already greatly enjoying the Prussians under Fredrick the Great and can't wait to have them face off against the hated Austrian forces. I hope we see a British and French set from this period as well. I love the 3 box concept. Its made my custom board gaming much more economic (less wasted figures).
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Post by Pat B. on Dec 6, 2017 20:46:47 GMT
According to Plastic Soldier Review, the HaT, Revell and Zvezda 7YW Prussians are all between 25.5mm and 26mm while the Revell 7YW Austrians are 24mm. If you match the HaT Austrians with the HaT/Revell/Zvezda Prussians, then those who have a bunch of Revell Austrians won't be able to mix and match these Austrians with the HaT sets. Which is worse - having a slight but noticeable size difference between each separate army but with figures mixable within an army or having mixed sizes within an army and not being able to mix between stands. I am looking for consistency and "mix-ability" within armies. I have too many Austrians to totally start over again. My vote is for the Austrians to be the same size as the Revell - not larger.
Pat B.
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Post by Malcolm on Dec 7, 2017 13:16:44 GMT
I agree with Pat B that these Austrians should match the Revell set so that mixed Grenadier Battalions can be made and increased variety with the Musketeer Regiments. As to bonus figures I would like to see a Sapper or a Miner/Engineer with a saw or axe etc.
Best regards,
Malcolm
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Post by Edwardian on Dec 9, 2017 17:03:05 GMT
Apropos the size debate, here are some comparisons.
I primed them quickly for the photograph (managed to scrape some off our HaT Prussian!)
From left to right we have (1) Revell Austrian, (2) HaT Prussian, (3) Revell Prussian, (4) metal 1/72nd French, and, (5) Redbox British
Based upon the above, I would suggest that sizing to the Revell set would not lead to a problematic disparity with the HaT Prussians.
The picture shows why I have not pursued 7YW, however. The French figure has a thicker base. If I mounted the British figure to the same height, I think these would just about work together. The thicker base on the metal figure means that I might just about manage to field the French with the Prussians and Austrians. French, British and Prussian/Hessian etc, would not work together, however. Minden's out, then!
Finally, I think the picture shows that there is space in the game for HaT British and French marching sets!
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Post by Malcolm on Dec 10, 2017 10:22:57 GMT
A nice size comparison. So a good argument to produce the Hat Austrians at the same size as those of Revell. You could add to your photo the Zvedza GNW Russian Infantry (no turnbacks so a stand in for French) and the Zvedza GNW Swedish Infantry (as Swedes). All of these seem to work well. However, if you want the AWI then you have problems since the Accurate British Infantry and ACTA British flank companies will be dwarfed by what is available to represent Brunswick and Hessian Infantry.
Best regards,
Malcolm
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Post by Malcolm on Dec 13, 2017 14:57:52 GMT
Maybe a bad sign that I am posting twice in a row without any comments from other forum users but I think that the SYW Austrians are too interesting to ignore. Taking another look at the Line Drawings I see that the Officer´s Horse is posed exactly like that of the Revell set. So I would suggest a slight shange there. Finally and more importantly Hat asked us (the people who will buy the sets) what Bonus Figures we would like to see. Personally a Bonus Figure of a Hungarian Line Infantry man or a Pandor or Croat would not be sufficient as nobody is going to buy twenty odd boxes in order to produce one unit. So I still go for the following:
Pioneer with Bearskin Hat or Sapper/Miner in their distinctive Blue Uniforms and Casquet with Axe or Saw etc. There were few of these in the army but at a time when field defences were still being used so there inclusion if only as a base of 3 or 4 figures could be very useful. I already have the excess figures from the Revell Artillery set as Pontooniers with the Hat Napoleonic French Pontoon but would love to also have a few more of the more exotic Sappers/Miners.
Best regards,
Malcolm
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Post by richard on Dec 14, 2017 15:10:50 GMT
Malcolm, I agree that these are too interesting to ignore!
I'm not fussed about bonus figures, I don't see the point in having a solitary figure from a different unit (hungarian, etc) because as you've said, there's not much you can do with only the one figure. And generally PSR have not been very complimentary on sets that have just 1 or 2 figures from different units. I'm more interested in just seeing some progress with this set!
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