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Post by traveller1865 on Dec 26, 2017 22:47:15 GMT
Are they suitable to use for Crusades of the Middle East without any major conversion work? I ask because all other major sets by other makers have Saracen cavalry or combined infantry and cavalry with few foot soldiers.
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Post by Ironsides on Dec 26, 2017 23:25:14 GMT
Yes  |
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Post by waynew on Dec 27, 2017 6:37:03 GMT
Two yesses to that question. Their El Cid Spanish make great Crusaders, too.
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Post by traveller1865 on Dec 27, 2017 9:16:09 GMT
Thank you, can't believe I missed these sets. In these days one should remember just how much HäT has given over the years, these sets are so useful, two 96 figure infantry sets for both sides that can be used for many parts of history, as well as a terrific command set with good sculpting.
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Post by Malcolm on Dec 27, 2017 9:26:41 GMT
The El Cid sets were very well thought out, dividing Heavy and Light Cavalry in two boxes so that the customer could decide on the ratio. The two command sets are the real treasure. One of the Monks is now with my Conquistadors, allowing Friar Tuck to go back and join Robin Hood. The command figure with a horn reminds me of the story of Roland. All in all amongst the best sets that Hat has ever produced.
Best regards,
Malcolm
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Post by jock52 on Dec 27, 2017 10:55:18 GMT
The 28mm sets were even better, shame the range was never completed, especially when the most useful ones were those missed  |
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Post by Forum Admin on Dec 27, 2017 11:09:18 GMT
The 28mm sets were even better, shame the range was never completed, especially when the most useful ones were those missed If there was enough interest they could be crowdfunded. |
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Post by Speedicut on Dec 27, 2017 21:47:01 GMT
I'd like a Spanish shield wall minibox as none of the men in the otherwise great infantry set are using their shields properly i.e. held towards the enemy. Range is not complete without this.
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Post by jock52 on Dec 28, 2017 10:30:02 GMT
The 28mm sets were even better, shame the range was never completed, especially when the most useful ones were those missed If there was enough interest they could be crowdfunded. That could be worth thinking about for the Napoleonics as well. Depends on the economics of course as price wise they would need to be competetive with the multi-part competition. They were an excellent value for money product. |
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Post by Edwardian on Dec 28, 2017 11:08:12 GMT
If there was enough interest they could be crowdfunded. That could be worth thinking about for the Napoleonics as well. Depends on the economics of course as price wise they would need to be competetive with the multi-part competition. They were an excellent value for money product.
British Peninsular Light Cavalry
British Peninsular Heavy Cavalry
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Post by steve on Dec 28, 2017 17:51:12 GMT
That could be worth thinking about for the Napoleonics as well. Depends on the economics of course as price wise they would need to be competetive with the multi-part competition. They were an excellent value for money product.
British Peninsular Light Cavalry
British Peninsular Heavy Cavalry
On the main website If you go to the marching through time section scroll down to the peninsular sets it now says alongside them to be remade, that that says to me that Hat are already planning to release these sets in the one true scale hooray! |
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Post by Edwardian on Dec 28, 2017 19:45:24 GMT
British Peninsular Light Cavalry
British Peninsular Heavy Cavalry
On the main website If you go to the marching through time section scroll down to the peninsular sets it now says alongside them to be remade, that that says to me that Hat are already planning to release these sets in the one true scale hooray! That is, indeed, good news, thank you Steve.
Admin! Why were we not informed?!? !!!!
Sorry for the hi-jack. I looked through the El Cid figures on PSR; they do look really very good. The Spanish Command set looks superb.
More expense!
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Post by waynew on Dec 29, 2017 2:45:31 GMT
You should see some great shots of the HaT Moors and El Cid line; I know I did a series of pix with them painted as Crusaders, etc.; and there were much better painters than I whose work was on there, too. 'Give you an idea of the possibilities.
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Post by traveller1865 on Dec 29, 2017 9:20:13 GMT
You should see some great shots of the HaT Moors and El Cid line; I know I did a series of pix with them painted as Crusaders, etc.; and there were much better painters than I whose work was on there, too. 'Give you an idea of the possibilities. Waaiiit a minute, can't the Crusaders double as Normans? Those with the kite shields? Can I finally begin on my Hastings dio? The HaT figures covering the Norman invasion is horrible...Also while I'm at it, the Moors as ancient Persians? |
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Post by tonymather on Dec 29, 2017 9:36:07 GMT
I have several boxes of Spanish Moors converted to serve in the armies of Sassanid Persia,Palmyra and Rome(as Arab auxiliaries)
Apart from changing some of the shields they are as manufactured. All for around the Third Century
Some of Hat's best figures!
Looking at Osprey books and other sources they seem reasonably accurate
Tony
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Post by waynew on Dec 31, 2017 20:45:56 GMT
You should see some great shots of the HaT Moors and El Cid line; I know I did a series of pix with them painted as Crusaders, etc.; and there were much better painters than I whose work was on there, too. 'Give you an idea of the possibilities. Waaiiit a minute, can't the Crusaders double as Normans? Those with the kite shields? Can I finally begin on my Hastings dio? The HaT figures covering the Norman invasion is horrible...Also while I'm at it, the Moors as ancient Persians? For sure; I've used the Spanish/Crusaders for Normans - they're useful for just about any Western European of the era I should think and a few might work for Eastern European, as well, depending on how pedantic one wants to be. My philosophy is, "they're my soldiers, I'll do what I want with them; if I want to have them storming the beaches at Normandy in my games and setups it's no one's business..." Of course, I like a bit more authenticity but to each his own. As far as the Peninsular British Cavalry - another example of HaT listening to us. I always figure the reason there aren't updates is: a) there's nothing to report. b) we're looking in the wrong place. c) we just need a reason to complain. d) all the above? |
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Post by grumble on Jan 2, 2018 16:40:26 GMT
Waaiiit a minute, can't the Crusaders double as Normans? Those with the kite shields? Can I finally begin on my Hastings dio? The HaT figures covering the Norman invasion is horrible...Also while I'm at it, the Moors as ancient Persians? Waynew said: For sure; I've used the Spanish/Crusaders for Normans - they're useful for just about any Western European of the era I should think and a few might work for Eastern European, as well, depending on how pedantic one wants to be. My philosophy is, "they're my soldiers, I'll do what I want with them; if I want to have them storming the beaches at Normandy in my games and setups it's no one's business..." Of course, I like a bit more authenticity but to each his own. ======================================================================================= Not quite so extreme, but: In the mid-1960's I got my first set of the (old) Airfix Afrika Korps. The only other figures in the store were Bedouin, so guess who got to be the first opponents of DAK? Then I found the Infantry Combat Group and painted them tan. I was elated some time later to discover the 8th Army figures. Finally! |
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