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Post by cpn on Mar 17, 2018 9:19:35 GMT
Hi evryone,
I would like to give my feedback on the matter of having separate backpack.
Personnaly, I dont like it as it does not fit very well. The cartridge box is in the air. Since a vast majority of Nap troops were carrying them anyway, I would mould them directly.
Besides I think it does slow down the production processus.
I would rather focus on additionnel heads (when applîcable) but full heads not headgear.
You thoughts?
CPN
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Post by wagram on Mar 17, 2018 10:36:35 GMT
Totally agree, no interest in detached knapsacks
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Post by Brian on Mar 17, 2018 20:46:05 GMT
I noticed at the Waterloo 2015 Reenactment that Napoleonic Backpacks do actually stand off the soldiers wearing them unlike modern backpacks which hug the contours of the body, I guess it's to do with the stiff leather they are made from and the positioning of the straps. I voted for them to be left off as I think they look slightly better particularly the swords and cartridge box but, if they are can be made as well as Hat's set 8170 French Guard Chasseurs I would not be too disappointed. The recent poll by Hat clearly went for Backpacks on to my surprise 1/72 Napoleonic Austrians questions answered |
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Post by Steve W on Mar 17, 2018 23:43:25 GMT
I'm in favour, as I think it gives a more realistic look. They can be a bit hard to put in position, especially with soft plastic. I've found that it is often easier to cut off the peg and glue them on directly.
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Post by Graeme on Mar 18, 2018 5:30:51 GMT
If they fit well they're OK. The backpacks in HaT's Prussian Infantry are well made for a good fit and really contribute to a good looking figure.
On the other hand, I don't look at the vast majority of my other Napoleonic figs from HaT and other makers, and think "gee these would look better with seperate backpacks". Althoough I have had to carve of useless blocks of plastic around some moulded on backpacks and a lot of neat rectangular cartridge boxes seem to metamorphose into indistinct polygons. There is a tendancy to lose detail.
Like CPN I like head swaps where applicable, I also like spare weapons and equpment but I don't want to recieve half a box of figures in order to fit this stuff on the sprue. This might explain the poll result. People might have been worried about losing figures to the seperate equipment. But HaT's latest landwehr offering has seperate backpacks and there are still a lot of figures in the box. also, in the past HaT have given us sets with lots of extras between the figures without replacing any of them.
I don't actually get excited by the fact that a set has seperate backpacks but if they fit well and are going to make the figures look better and we don't lose anythging by it, fine.
Looking at some of HaT's sets with moulded on packs the detail of packs and cartridge boxes is good and in some cases like the Belgian Infantry the detail is superb. If the moulded on packs are going to be as good as they can be why bother with seperate packs. if the detail of the moulded on packs is going to be fudged, forget it, give us the seperate packs.
I realise the other argument against seperate packs is that some folks don't want to be building model kits, they want figures good to go straight from the box. And that's perfectly reasonable.
One instance where I definately approve of seperate backpacks is Zvezda's French Foot Artillery. Having seperate packs and muskets for these figures means I can leave the stupid trhings off.
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Post by endeavour on Mar 20, 2018 22:04:57 GMT
If moulding the back packs directly to the figures means you can fit more than 20/24 in a box I would be happier. While we are on the subject how come the French elites in greatcoats have five figures and eight backpacks per sprue?
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Post by greentiger on Mar 21, 2018 11:47:40 GMT
I hate separate backpacks with a passion - they are fiddly to put on, they drop off and at this scale they add nothing aesthetically.
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Post by aggiejohn on Mar 21, 2018 18:39:50 GMT
I agree, detached backpacks do little for me. I love the changeable heads, if I don't use them with the box they came in I end up using them latter on different projects. I can't say the same for packs.
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