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Post by cpn on Apr 13, 2018 16:49:42 GMT
good day to you all, As HAT mentioned in a previous thread ( link), it seems it is up to us to now influence this great Era where not a lot of great figures are filling the gap. So with your constructive help, I am willing to animate this discussion/project and help HAT to create what could be the ultimate product for AWI taking everything in considerations such as nothing can be represented such a variety of uniforms and units but approaching the 80% solution. My personal interest and passion for this era are to see them released ASAP and not to wait another 10 years. For your information, these masters were made in 2011 and I thought these would come in 2012-2013! Dear Hat, before all of us go into well-animated discussions and proposals, are the masters attached still existing or do we have to start from scratch?Thank you for your quick reply on that matters. Based on this, I envision to have dedicated threads dealing with the following sub-topics/ titles: AWI - ARTILLERY AWI - CAVALRY + LEGIONS AWI - BRITISH ELITES AWI - AMERICAN MILITIA AWI - BRITISH REGULARS + COMMAND AWI - AMERICAN REGULARS + COMMAND Other important nations and topics will occur in due time but let's focus on the main actors to start with, shall we? Thank you in advance for the support and great conversation to come. Cheers. CPN Attachments:
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Post by richard on Apr 13, 2018 21:29:16 GMT
As mentioned in previous threads, I am very enthused by this project. The masters look great and it would be a huge waste for these not to be turned into sets. As my biggest wish of French Indian War sets will probably never happen, this is my next biggest interest.
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Post by 1stsgt37thga on Apr 14, 2018 3:51:19 GMT
Hat should also make some appropriate Native American warriors for this time period. French and Hessian troops would be on my list to purchase in large numbers as well. Todd
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Post by richard on Apr 14, 2018 14:48:37 GMT
The grenadiers in bearskins look particularly good.
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Post by cpn on Apr 20, 2018 18:43:27 GMT
Hi everyone,
it seems HAT webmaster is on leave so let's crack on and assume the masters are still existing.
great points: - very comprehensive coverage of the multitude of "uniforms" - everyone has a bayonet (if you don't want it, simply cut it / easier than to add it ) - artillery is great - cavalry should cover most of the units.
Points to add and secure: 1/ as a lot of you rightly pointed out, additional heads will be key to ensure this will become the ultimate 1/72 AWI sets. So round hats, cocked hats, round hat with the left side up light caps and even some Tarleton helmets for all the sets should be great. Just do one separate spue of heads and add it to every box. And it will fit both Americans and British alike. 2/ add a fifer to the American command. if something Italeri Us Continental achieved this is by providing a fairly accurate representation of the command of an AWI American company with Officers + spontoon, 1 drummer, 1 fifer. 3/ I would have dedicated sets for UK lights infantry an not only 3 poses as this infantry likes the grenadiers was particularly involved and every fight. Besides the "light bob" looks became also the type of uniforms wore even for center companies. 4/ Artillery: try to add a couple of gunner. as other contributors in another thread, I think your artillery sets should now mature to get a firing team and a loading/aiming team. This could be achieved by multi arms concepts like the PERRY miniatures brothers did for their ACW artillery set which I think is great.
more to follow.
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Post by Malcolm on Apr 24, 2018 9:04:45 GMT
THe AWI period is a favourite of mine since it involves the British in what I consider their most elegant uniforms following the 1768 regulations. I already have many of the Revell and Imex British Infantry and so would like any new sculpts to be in scale with those, rather than compatible with Hat´s 26mm SYW Prussians (Hessians and Brunswickers). The two Artillery crews which can work for either nation will be welcome, hopefully with a true size piece and not the small pop guns of the Imex sets. Here I would suggest the British 5.5 Inch Howitzer since that was used right through the AWI and Napoleonic Wars periods and to date has not been represented in plastic. As to the cavary sets, the Americans both Mounted and on Foot, I have already done by conversions but am always willing to add new recruits if they are size compatible. For my American Dragoons I used the Revell SYW Austrians for Bodies with Airfix French Cuirassier Heads mounted on the Airfix Cuirassier Horses with the French Saddle. The Dismounted Dragoons were done by Head swops between Esci Cuirassiers and Revell American Militia. The British Grenadies will be most welcome since although few sculps if they are compatible with the ACTA figures at least that adds to their four figures.
If these come to fruition maybe in the not to distant future we can expect a decent set of French Infantry and "Hope of Hopes" Spanish in their Jockey Caps.
Best regards,
Malcolm
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Post by Forum Admin on Apr 25, 2018 1:37:06 GMT
Yes.
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Post by ToneTW on Jan 25, 2019 0:03:00 GMT
Sorry to resurrect this old thread! Would it be possible to have an AWI thread "sticky" with the master pics, to have a central discussion thread for future reference?
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Post by cpn on Jan 30, 2019 12:18:11 GMT
Hi, I fully support. CPN
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Post by richard on Feb 1, 2019 19:06:52 GMT
Still look at those masters and think what if...
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Post by waynew on Feb 2, 2019 2:40:40 GMT
Cheer up chaps, it ain't over until the fat lady sings - I may be awhile in coming, but she's not even warming up yet.
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Post by gvignera on Mar 23, 2019 9:21:19 GMT
Very very nice....
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Post by bessiere on May 16, 2019 14:14:47 GMT
Wouldn't Hessian mercenaries also be important? For the frontier war in NY state the Mohawk tribe were very active as well. Then there's the Green Mountain boys...
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Post by flashman on Jan 16, 2020 14:33:36 GMT
France bankrupted itself supporting the American revolution and brought on one of it's own, so how about some French revolutionaries?
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Post by greentiger on Jan 21, 2020 12:54:30 GMT
Has this idea been shelved? It would be a shame I think- I think people are looking for something a little different and this is it.Sure I would love a French Revolutionary Wars range but the last early Napoleonic set had some casquet heads in which is at least a stab in that direction and I would rather see these AWI sets made ...
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Post by Tripod on Jan 21, 2020 21:59:39 GMT
Hat is like playing the lottery. We all buy in with the hope of winning but our numbers never come up. Look back at the age of collectors and you will see time is against us. If only we could make a product laxative to get things moving through faster.
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Post by waynew on Jan 22, 2020 16:27:59 GMT
Hat is like playing the lottery. We all buy in with the hope of winning but our numbers never come up. Look back at the age of collectors and you will see time is against us. If only we could make a product laxative to get things moving through faster. I know that my days on this plain of existence are numbered and even though I have literally cases of unpainted figures in my storage waiting for the brush I fear if HaT doesn't release its ARW line or finally come out with the Etruscans I am going to die and my soul will wander the aisles of the few remaining brick and mortar hobby shops never knowing rest. They are THAT important to me...
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Post by paintdog on Jan 25, 2020 7:03:51 GMT
a product laxative to get things moving through faster. Now that is a funny line. It's hard to laugh at the slow release of much wanted sets but Tripod's joke was a gem.
donald
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Post by cpn on Feb 15, 2020 17:51:06 GMT
Hi everyone, So who think this AWI project should finally starts? CPN
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Post by richard on Feb 16, 2020 22:40:00 GMT
Based on Hat's current list of projects (Nap Austrians in both scales, British Dragoons/Heavy cav, ACW sets) I'd guess this is several years away. Would this be a good project to start? Yes Have they got excellent masters for hem? Yes Will we ever see them produced? Maybe? One day?
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Post by minuteman on Feb 17, 2020 22:58:51 GMT
AWI may be some way off into the future, given other sets in the queue at HaT. However, a few really well-designed sets - American Continentals, British regulars, maybe light infantry, perhaps even minutemen (!) would probably sell well and be worth the investment.
The 18th century seems to be getting renewed interest in our hobby, and the War of Spanish Succession range recently launched by another manufacturer shows how well a few good sets can sell. I don't think I have seen sets selling on release at quite the rapid rate that these are for quite a long time.
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Post by greentiger on Mar 19, 2020 10:44:13 GMT
I hope this doesn't go quiet - I would really like to see these figures - perhaps we have had too much? Rather than go overboard and overstretch how about just a set of Brits and a set of Americans (like people used to do in the olden days) to get the ball rolling?
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Post by davidmac on Mar 19, 2020 16:40:26 GMT
I, too, like these figures. Or the thought of them. In a bit of impatience, I bought some of the other brands, and a few Musket Miniatures metals. But I'll still buy some of the Hat figures, when they arrive.
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Post by designteam on Mar 20, 2020 19:25:50 GMT
The sprue design stage will be starting shortly.
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Post by richard on Mar 21, 2020 0:45:30 GMT
Something to look forward to!
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