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Post by alanbuckingham on Jan 15, 2019 16:44:04 GMT
It struck me yesterday that with the new digital process for creating and converting figures from masters that there is a relatively easy way of creating a lot of sets that as yet no one has done in 1/72 plastic. Taking the British mounted rifles as the base set and adding a spike and badge to the helmet and changing the rifle to a carbine you have the Natal mounted police, Stanger mounted rifles,Victoria mounted rifles,Natal carbineers and other irregular units, add Braid to the jackets and you have the Durban mounted rifles,Buffalo border guard, Newcastle mounted rifles, Natal hussars and others. Now I would buy one box to represent each unit, so that is about twelve boxes for me at least. So gents in order to persuade our hosts of the commercial viability of this I would like to see you express your interest in the project, the Anglo Zulu war has been an historical winner for Hat with most sets selling out each time they are re released , there is no doubt in my mind that these two sets would also sell out, being more useful than any of the other mounted units already made in 1/72, your support gentlemen please.
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Post by shedumpire on Jan 15, 2019 18:16:14 GMT
I'd certainly support that Alan!
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Post by paintdog on Jan 16, 2019 0:08:43 GMT
It struck me yesterday that with the new digital process for creating and converting figures from masters that there is a relatively easy way of creating a lot of sets that as yet no one has done in 1/72 plastic. Taking the British mounted rifles as the base set and adding a spike and badge to the helmet and changing the rifle to a carbine you have the Natal mounted police, Stanger mounted rifles,Victoria mounted rifles,Natal carbineers and other irregular units, add Braid to the jackets and you have the Durban mounted rifles,Buffalo border guard, Newcastle mounted rifles, Natal hussars and others. Now I would buy one box to represent each unit, so that is about twelve boxes for me at least. So gents in order to persuade our hosts of the commercial viability of this I would like to see you express your interest in the project, the Anglo Zulu war has been an historical winner for Hat with most sets selling out each time they are re released , there is no doubt in my mind that these two sets would also sell out, being more useful than any of the other mounted units already made in 1/72, your support gentlemen please. With no malice at all, I'd say no. This is just my opinion so I dare say not worth much.
It seems to me there are other methods of raising these units. I have the NMP, both mounted & dismounted, using the Newline figures. The other units could be created through some admittedly complex conversions. As a wargamer, I have the problem that for every British/Colonial figure I have, I need about 5 Zulus to oppose them. In spite of having many hundreds of Zulus (mostly HaT), I have way too many British (they're too much fun to paint). Thus, my "need" for more units is small.
I'd think that HaT could better use its energy to get the wagon sets out, or create a set of Zulu dead, scouts, the young boys attached to impis etc. Even better would be attention to other Colonial spheres: more Dervish & some Baggara Horse for the Mahdist Wars or anything for the NW Frontier.
I still wish you luck for your proposal, Alan.
donald
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Post by waynew on Jan 16, 2019 0:53:28 GMT
I think it would be an expedient way of filling out numerous units involved in the conflict - no doubt, with proper paint jobs they could find other uses, too. Again, to quote my beloved Grandma - "Chew the wheat, spit out the chaff" or buy what you want/need and leave the rest alone. I believe there are more who would buy than not.
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Post by Redneck26 on Jan 16, 2019 5:17:19 GMT
I think this is a good idea. I would certainly buy at least 6 sets.
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Post by GarrisonClay on Jan 23, 2019 18:25:53 GMT
The Zulu Wars is a Range HaT is dominating, so I would love to see them continue with more sets. I've always liked the idea of Accessories, such as Swoppable heads and helmets (as recommended above). I would buy lots of British Cavalry if this time they were made in Red or Blue; no more Tan. And please do not make them in the awful Clear Blue the Naval set was reissued in. When I bought 10 boxes, I was expecting the nice Deep Blue the WWI Early French Artillerymen were done in. On the other hand, the Unmarried Zulus were such a nice surprise in a great Brown. And they mix well enough with the earlier set of Zulus in Dark Brown.
In the same Brown colour, I would love to see a sister set of Zulu Commanders of all ranks with casualty figures (as suggested above) with a Chief Cetshwayo.
I would buy all the sets mentioned in this thread so long as HaT continues with adding authentic colours such as Deep Red, Blue, or even Dark Gray like the Lancers.
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Post by alanbuckingham on Jan 31, 2019 13:37:46 GMT
For those interested in all things 1/72 and Zulu war, please look at the finished range of the defense of Rorkes drift, Germania figures.
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Post by Hugh Halkett on Mar 21, 2019 14:52:12 GMT
Hello fellow plasticsoldiering enthusiats,
that is an interesting discussion on new sets improving the value of both - her her Majesty's troops as well as Victoria's enemies.
I have posted the following ideas a while ago with a similar intention, not just taking the Zulu War into account, but other obvious imperial conflicts of the same periods.
On the occasion of this recent issue here, I am allowing myself to repeat those ideas.
1. Boers War 1880/1881 - to play Laing’s Nek and Majuba
- Mounted Boers (though very similar to the existing Frontier Light Horse set)
- Boers on foot (including procumpent poses )
2. British Expedition to Egypt 1882 - to play Tel El Kebir and maybe Sudan campaign
- Arabi Pascha Infantry
- Arabi Pascha Artillery
- maybe Cavalry
3. 2nd Afghan War - to play Maiwand, Khandar and others
- Regular Afghan Infantry
- Regular Afghan Artillery
- Regular Afghan Cavalry
- maybe Afghan Tribes men on foot and mounted.
Though collectors of this period might get the advantage of saving efforts to build up figures for these scenarios and battles not by converting others, our friends at HAT Corp. would be able to sell a significant number of sets per product, due to the facts that these would be real innovations as well as a certain number of sets of each product should be purchased to create those clashes with her Majesty's soldiers.
What do you at the HAT community think of this suggestions?
Should HAT get into planning those kinds of sets?
Looking Forward to your replies.
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