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Post by zirrian on Mar 11, 2018 21:12:40 GMT
After reading the PSR review for it, and looking at the figures, I've decided I like them, and I got the early infantry box some weeks ago, but...where the hell do we get cannons from? I won't buy the late kit (which I need for a late army) just to discard the crew, and what exactly should I do with all the mounted minis?
Another issue with the WW2 French arty - one wheel per sprue means enough wheels for only two guns. I feel like buying metals would be a feasible and cheaper option seeing how I should pay only one postage for cannon and crew.
Grumbling over.
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Post by Forum Admin on Mar 11, 2018 21:26:51 GMT
HaT is open to suggestions from the community!
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Post by Ironsides on Mar 11, 2018 21:46:17 GMT
Theres a number of later war French gun kits on the market so finding guns for those spare french crews shouldn't be a problem, one reason why I like the Late war French and US artillery sets is they both came with caissons a rarity in our hobby, as such I consider the set good value just for the guns and caissons, if you can find four french 75s + caissons cheaper let me know as at the current time an equivalent in metal will set you back 32GBP(gun 4crew)-58GBP(gun caisson and 6 crew)... Hät 13eu-20eu! price is for a 4 gun battery (4 guns 4 caissons full crew) On the WW2 gun the wheel in question is for the motorised version, the horse drawn version was used in large numbers as well many being towed by half tracks and trucks many using a special detachable wheel....  |
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Post by Alan Buckingham on Mar 11, 2018 23:55:29 GMT
The 75`s should be done in hard plastic, without crew, but with some WW2 era wheels,and caissons , buying other makes, like first to fight is expensive, it`s cheaper to buy the Hat 75`s and throw away the crews and use the rest.
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Post by zirrian on Mar 12, 2018 7:45:37 GMT
Ah, First to Fight - great suggestion. Thank you.
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Post by Ironsides on Mar 12, 2018 8:23:34 GMT
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Post by zirrian on Mar 12, 2018 8:43:22 GMT
What was the difference? They sell it with both the "modern" wheel for WW2 and the wooden wheels. If there's no better option, I'd settle for them happily, since they are pretty fairly priced for what I want them for. edit: thanks for the links, saw the edit after I've quoted  |
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Post by Ironsides on Mar 12, 2018 9:00:49 GMT
The most obvious difference is French guns have 14 spoke wheels as far as I know only Hät make this version in plastic, there were several versions of the motorised wheel, again as far as I know at least two appear to have been used by the French (I think AT and Artillery versions maybe?) and a version used by the Polish which may be identical to one of the French?.... The French WW2 motorised versions which also include a third detachable variant and the US version: canonde75.free.fr/canonsmodifies.htmLike Alan I think hard plastic is a good option for a new stand alone kit, which should also include a number of the potential variants possible with the basic model, I think the US version for Bir Hakeim FFL may be a step to far... |
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Post by zirrian on Mar 12, 2018 9:51:40 GMT
Well, I have a feeling this won't bother me too much, and will be happy with a different number of spokes on the wheel  |
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Post by Pat on Mar 12, 2018 17:20:53 GMT
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Post by Ironsides on Mar 12, 2018 20:28:21 GMT
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Post by Pat on Mar 14, 2018 16:54:56 GMT
Thanks again!
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Post by GarrisonClay on Mar 14, 2018 20:04:46 GMT
I'll go on record to say what great sets the WWI French gun in Blue w/crew and WWI German gun in Gray are with both the caissons and other accessories in Soft Plastic. I find them perfect for making conversions and sharing with other armies. I prefer HaT's Airfix Infantry reissues in Tan color and same with French infantry in Adrian Helmets. It's supposed to be glueable plastic but I've never had to. I'm surprised to see the new Early French Artillery Crew in a nice Dark Blue Soft Plastic and I will be buying them to man my HaT French Cannons. If HaT makes highly detailed cannons with all the smaller detailed parts more like a typical "model" then I agree hard plastic is more logical, especially for the guys who like to "build" them. As for me, I enjoy to just take them right out of the box, a little cleaning, and have fun. I think HaT has been consistent in catering to all collectors, painters, nonpainters, hard plastic, and soft plastic and still is and I'm really grateful. Especially can't wait to continue building up my HaT Zulu Army. I really like HaT doing both combined guns and crews and separate, but regardless prefer the crews to be soft plastic. Anyway, once again - "Thank You HaT!"
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