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Post by joe5790 on Apr 12, 2019 11:12:42 GMT
Hi guys,
Just wondering what your thoughts would be if HaT were to make generic box sets for Infantry and Cavalry for thr bog standard units of the early 1700s?
I've looked around at some info and depictions of the uniforms of the nation's that fought the War of the Spanish Succession and Great Northern War and it is remarkable has similar all do the Line Infantry uniforms are.
With most armies looking practically the same, with little defining features outside of the colour of the uniforms, I think this period would be perfect for core sets of infantry and cavalry for just this period, allowing HaT to put more focus on the special units, like Grenadiers, and Guards.
This approach allows HaT to not have to release multiple sets for every faction in whatever war they are focusing on, allowing them to put that focus onto other things.
For this period of time specifically I believe this approach would work well.
What are your thoughts?
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Post by stevo0113 on Apr 12, 2019 13:59:48 GMT
Hat With some help from this forum could then list the armies for witch the figures are suitable for.
The box could have various pictures of the colours or minor modifications for different troops
multi talented armies I like the sound of that but then I know nothing about the early 1700's armies.
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Post by joe5790 on Apr 12, 2019 15:07:59 GMT
Well, from what little research I have done on the WoSS (I look more at the Great Northern War), barring some pieces of equipment and details, the uniform of the British, French, Swedes, and Russians all look very similar, with the Grenadiers and Guards regiments being a bit more ornate.
So for the standard Line units, it wouldn't be hard to make a standard unit for all factions with perhaps a few bits for each nation added inside the box and you can choose which nation they are a part of based off the bit you put onto the model. Though whether adding nation specific bits into the box so collectors can choose would 've worth the effort at 1/72 scale I don't know, but it couldn't hurt to try.
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Post by waynew on Apr 12, 2019 16:09:45 GMT
One could have the "generic" sets as "foundation " for one's armies, colored to suit. Specialist units could be produced and added to those. I think it's a great idea.
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Post by Marco Zappa on Apr 12, 2019 20:07:45 GMT
Hi guys, Just wondering what your thoughts would be if HaT were to make generic box sets for Infantry and Cavalry for thr bog standard units of the early 1700s? I've looked around at some info and depictions of the uniforms of the nation's that fought the War of the Spanish Succession and Great Northern War and it is remarkable has similar all do the Line Infantry uniforms are. With most armies looking practically the same, with little defining features outside of the colour of the uniforms, I think this period would be perfect for core sets of infantry and cavalry for just this period, allowing HaT to put more focus on the special units, like Grenadiers, and Guards. This approach allows HaT to not have to release multiple sets for every faction in whatever war they are focusing on, allowing them to put that focus onto other things. For this period of time specifically I believe this approach would work well. What are your thoughts? Good idea !! I agree. |
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Post by aurum on Apr 12, 2019 20:22:20 GMT
l'll gladly buy them by the dozens. I'm fond of whigs and the uniforms are extremely elegant. The reason why they've been criminally neglected by 1/72 manufacturers, while delivering humongous numbers of napoleonics, is beyond me (well... apart fr. Zvezda).
Also, are there any plans to release some syw heavy cav, infantry specialists and artillery in the foreseable future? Both are badly needed. Some 7yw French, on the other hand...
Cheers!
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Post by minuteman on Apr 12, 2019 21:55:05 GMT
This is in my mind a very good idea. It is also a concept that has been floated in this Forum before (at least 2 or 3 years ago if my memory services me).
The main distinguishing features of the uniform of different major combatants in European warfare in the period 1700 to, say, 1720 are in headgear - at least for the purposes of 1/72. A set featuring infantry for 'western European' armies in tricornes with some extra heads to allow grenadiers to be modelled would be a good start. It could then be extended into, perhaps, a second set for 'Northern European' armies which could allow GNW forces to be modelled, and which would feature some figures with 'karpus' headgear, and also some pikemen. Supplement this with a generic infantry command set, a generic cavalry set and a generic artillery set...and the period coulkd be at least adequately covered in about 5 decent sets.
In terms of viability and timing of such sets. Well, having just placed an order for some of the new SYW Austrians, I think I'd rather see some good SYW cavalry and artillery sets before going further back to the start of the 18th Century.
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Post by joe5790 on Apr 12, 2019 21:58:36 GMT
One could have the "generic" sets as "foundation " for one's armies, colored to suit. Specialist units could be produced and added to those. I think it's a great idea. This is what I was getting at. Produce a 'Core' set (or sets) so that wargamers and collectors can easily fill out the bulk of an army, but for the special units HaT can spend some time making those be individual to each nation. However, Grenadiers for the Swedish, Russians and Prussians I think would be fine as a generic set, but with different headgear that collectors can glue down depending on nation (the Swedish Grenadiers had similar headgear to most Grenadier units in Europe at the time, only it had Charles XII's cipher on their headgear for example, and this may be something HaT could do to make a single box set work for many nations). Glad to see the idea has some support. Now for HaT to put it onto the 'to-do' list |
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