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Post by devonian on May 11, 2019 12:46:12 GMT
Proposed future WW1 sets in 1/72 for HäT to consider:
1.Kings African Rifles : would be a nice addition to HäT`s East Africa range
2: French Infantry Heavy Weapons set 1916-18. I know HäT have 37mm Trench gun planned but a set with mortars and machine guns would be very welcome and fill in a rather big gap.
3. Early War Austrian cavalry - Hussars & Dragoons.
4. Serbian Infantry machine gun set 1914/15 as a companion to the rather lonely Infantry set and perhaps a set of Serbian Artillery crew.
5. Belgian Carabiniers- a full set to add to the few figures in the Infantry Heavy weapons set.
6. Late War Austrian Infantry or Jäger as opponents for the upcoming Italians.
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Post by Zaphod on May 11, 2019 14:57:19 GMT
Personally, I'd love to see more stuff from just after WWI, namely the Russian Civil War and the Polish-Soviet War of 1919-21. I imagine there is a great deal of overlap with things like Cossacks, Interventionist expeditions from Britain/USA and Polish troops fighting in the same blue french uniforms they were issued in France.
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Post by grumble on May 11, 2019 22:02:02 GMT
I second devonian's idea of KAR for WW1.
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Post by Boom boom out go the lights on May 13, 2019 9:50:41 GMT
More 1914/15 Serbian troops (summer infantry, artillery crews, MG).
French heavy weapons, esp. trench mortars.
Austro-Hungarian 1914/15 cavalry.
Early War French colonial troops.
These wold be top of my list.
Followed by Bulgarian infantry, French early war (dismounted?) cavalry, and then some. :-)
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Post by grumble on May 23, 2019 20:13:45 GMT
Yesterday I received in the mail two more boxes of HäT Askari from my hobby dealer. For the time being, I will convert 50% of them (the ones wearing pillbox field caps) into King's African Rifles and hope not too many players complain that they're wearing trousers instead of shorts and have the wrong kit. Perhaps really sharp-eyed players will ask why they're carrying Mausers. My answer to all of these will be that in East Africa there was a lot of captured equipment being used. That probably won't wash because they'll say most of the capturing was in the other direction. Point is (not to be a broken record) a set of KAR would fit very nicely.  |
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Post by SteveO on May 25, 2019 5:51:39 GMT
Personally, I'd love to see more stuff from just after WWI, namely the Russian Civil War and the Polish-Soviet War of 1919-21. I imagine there is a great deal of overlap with things like Cossacks, Interventionist expeditions from Britain/USA and Polish troops fighting in the same blue french uniforms they were issued in France.
Me too. HaT already have Russian Regular Cavalry and Caucasus Cossacks in the pipeline which is great (if they ever appear that is!). I'd also welcome some Russian/Ukrainian partisans on foot and horse as well as Russian Naval Infantry in pea-jackets.
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Post by jock52 on May 25, 2019 9:34:50 GMT
How about something nice and simple, like British 18 and 13 pounder field guns in hard(ish) plastic? This is one set of 4 with options on gun barrels, Crew already there.
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Post by grumble on May 26, 2019 20:26:58 GMT
How about something nice and simple, like British 18 and 13 pounder field guns in hard(ish) plastic? This is one set of 4 with options on gun barrels, Crew already there. Another company already makes the 18 pdr in hard(ish) plastic. Originally it was difficult to glue these models together (the ones I bought!) but I understand that the plastic has been improved for this and for the German 77 mm gun as well. But it would be nice to get a 13 pdr that's more accurate than the one from the Airifx set. As you said, the crew is already there (Airfix). |
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Post by jock52 on May 27, 2019 9:18:55 GMT
How about something nice and simple, like British 18 and 13 pounder field guns in hard(ish) plastic? This is one set of 4 with options on gun barrels, Crew already there. Another company already makes the 18 pdr in hard(ish) plastic. Originally it was difficult to glue these models together (the ones I bought!) but I understand that the plastic has been improved for this and for the German 77 mm gun as well. But it would be nice to get a 13 pdr that's more accurate than the one from the Airifx set. As you said, the crew is already there (Airfix). I'm being selfish, I want four guns so I'd need to buy two Emhar boxes (18pdr guns are nice though) and have leftovers. The Airfix products are at best poor. So I'd prefer HaT to come up with the goods, I've already got spare HaT crews. |
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Post by Ironsides on May 27, 2019 9:57:22 GMT
I think an 18pdr with a 13pdr barrel included would work as the carriages are quite similar though not exact in our scale its a good compromise, the Airfix "model" although I like it as as collectors piece or even a generic gun is really nothing like the 13pdr and doesn't even have a breech... Emhar 18pdr is reasonable but the crew are little more then infantry and that includes the guys with shells...
For WW2 a Martin Perry conversion for motorisation could be included for EW buffs and would make a nice complement to the BEF infantry... and could also be used for the Finns and Russians ...
Though I guess to cover everything you may need a box trail version as well...
Not a perfect solution I warrant |
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Post by grumble on May 30, 2019 1:35:01 GMT
Emhar 18pdr is reasonable but the crew are little more then infantry and that includes the guys with shells...
For WW2 a Martin Perry conversion for motorisation could be included for EW buffs and would make a nice complement to the BEF infantry... and could also be used for the Finns and Russians ... The HäT WWI British artillery crew set is very nice. ;-) You're right, the figures in the Emhar 18 pdr set are not really artillery. However, I have found the infantry useful for some one-off conversions -- some of them using the extra heads from the HäT WWI British artillery crew! I would second motorization conversions for all WWI guns -- including all of these: 8173 WWI Putilov 76mm Gun, 8242 WWI Italian 75mm Deport Gun, 8243 WWI British Q45 Howitzer, 8244 WWI Skoda 75mm Mtn Gun, and 8245 WWI Austrian 10cm Gun. |
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Post by Ironsides on May 30, 2019 6:18:30 GMT
Would agree the Emhar "crew" make usefull crew for other weapons such as the stokes, but theres only so many of these you can possible use... Hats Artillery crew fill the gap otherwise... |
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Post by grumble on May 30, 2019 17:58:08 GMT
Would agree the Emhar "crew" make useful crew for other weapons such as the stokes, but there's only so many of these you can possible use... Hats Artillery crew fill the gap otherwise... I'm converting some Emhar Stokes mortars into East Africa troops (25th Royal Fusiliers) for one of the games I'm putting on at Historicon this year. The Lewis gun will also be converted, for the KAR.
Actually, the Stokes and Lewis are not in the artillery set. They are part of the Emhar infantry and (nearly nonexistent!) tank crew set. My favorite part of that set is the awesome officers. They have been placed in command of many of my units.  |
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Post by Boom Boom out go the lights on May 31, 2019 8:09:44 GMT
"I would second motorization conversions for all WWI guns -- including all of these: 8173 WWI Putilov 76mm Gun,(...) 8244 WWI Skoda 75mm Mtn Gun (...)" - me too but I am unaware these two were converted for motorized tow as well?
About the Emhar sets, both the British and the German include infantry figures handling shells or the mortar / MG that are very versatile. It is easy with one of the two plastic versions they were cast in to cut off the shells / weapons and re-position the arms. That way, some MG no 1 gunners become MG loaders which the sets are otherwise lacking (the ammo boxes are there, though).
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Post by grumble on Jun 1, 2019 0:41:08 GMT
"I would second motorization conversions for all WWI guns -- including all of these: 8173 WWI Putilov 76mm Gun,(...) 8244 WWI Skoda 75mm Mtn Gun (...)" - me too but I am unaware these two were converted for motorized tow as well? You are correct to ask, Boom Boom. In writing my post, I lazily cut and pasted all of the guns in that series. I only know for sure that the others were converted for motorized tow. Sorry about that! |
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Post by Ironsides on Jun 2, 2019 8:40:43 GMT
The 1902 Putilov went through a major conversion program in the USSR...
One of the more heavily modernised variants:
would require a new kit I think
Ace do a short run kit for the more common 1902/30 which is still available, but it was as far as I know it was never motorised.
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Post by Boom Boom out go the lights on Jun 3, 2019 18:39:11 GMT
Grumble, Ironsides, many thanks for clearing that up.
I will find another excuse to buy more of these cute little kits. :-)
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Post by grumble on Jun 5, 2019 1:54:01 GMT
I will find another excuse to buy more of these cute little kits. :-) They are cute little kits, and my Ottoman Turks (HäT 8070 WWI Ottoman Inf) are very happy to have the HäT 8244 WWI Skoda 75mm Mtn Gun backing them up in Mesopotamia! |
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Post by plasticpanzers on Jun 6, 2019 4:37:35 GMT
I mentioned this once before when this came up. There needs to be distinct choices for WW1
1914-15 or 1916-1918. Rather now they are mix and match making it hard to do early war without
late war troops and vice-versa....
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