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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 7, 2017 4:05:33 GMT
Please discuss what you would like to see, and please suggest some possible bonus figures: ... ...
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Post by John on Nov 7, 2017 4:42:52 GMT
Woo Hoo! Love them and would buy loads! I want to see all of them in plastic and in my man-cave
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Post by Black Forest Pete on Nov 7, 2017 6:28:27 GMT
GREAT!!!
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Post by Chris Dodson on Nov 7, 2017 7:22:50 GMT
I have an enormous amount of Hat Austrians ready for Aspern Essling, a future project.
These chaps will provide variety in the ranks and lead to some super scenes if they are produced in good time. Unfortunately the Prussian Landwehr took so long they only got a look in at the end.
I look forward to seeing progress.
Best wishes,
Chris
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Post by Steve W on Nov 7, 2017 7:25:58 GMT
I'm not about to start an Austrian army, but if I were I'd like to see some figures in the uniform of the Hungarian regiments, which were identical to the Austrians except in the legwear department - long trousers with knots rather than gaiters to just below the knee. But in all other respects this could be a fabulous set and it's great to see the multiple headwear options.
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Post by gbvarese on Nov 7, 2017 8:10:35 GMT
Dear Adm.
I'm very happy to learn that you decided to resume the development of the Austrian set. As I've already suggested in the past, in order to make it possible the implementation the Hungarian uniforms too, include the Hungarian knots on the trousers. If one do not need them, it will be very easy to trim them away.
Thanks . Giovanni
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Post by Pierre on Nov 7, 2017 8:11:41 GMT
Hi Great I prefer with shako (1809, 1812, 1813 and 1814). With helmet (1800 ?, 1805, 1809) ok. No need for grenadier you make a great box of it. thank you Best Pierre
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Post by Andrew Hughes on Nov 7, 2017 8:44:23 GMT
Excellent.....HaT is back
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Post by Turnkey 93 on Nov 7, 2017 13:04:05 GMT
Please keep some of the grenadier headwear in, as it gives an opportunity for bulking out the "firing line" poses to supplement set 8198. Thanks
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Post by Allan from Glasgow on Nov 7, 2017 13:16:56 GMT
Great news, I would love to see all of the above produced, please release whatever you decide to do in the mac format as it allows customers to customize to their needs.
i would also love all sets to provide additional head formats allowing for greater flexibility, on a day of good news can you advise us on the status of Prussian landwehr
thanks in advance
Allan
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Post by ToneTW on Nov 7, 2017 16:35:41 GMT
Very nice! As long as I can make units in helmets I'm in. Personal preference for me would be MAC format as it will allow me to add commands to older Austrian sets.
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 7, 2017 17:05:19 GMT
Here I agree with ToneTW. I have a lot of the early Italeri German Infantry/Hungarian Grenadiers and would love to have some proper Standard Bearers.
Best regards,
Malcolm
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Post by Dougie B on Nov 7, 2017 17:29:59 GMT
Great to here there is movement on the Austrians at long last, I have to admit my interest in the hobby has been cooling, the arrive of the Prussian landwehr and with the Austrians to look forward to,my interest in the hobby would return to Smoking Hot!
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Post by Graeme on Nov 7, 2017 17:47:39 GMT
A few general observations for any future Napoleonic sets:
!. MAC is best.
2. For the action set, equal numbers of standing firing and loading figures please. My favourite figure is advancing with bayonet at the low port but I liked the way the Prussian Landwehr set also had advancing figures with higher pitched bayonets for the second rank. Again equal numbers. If an action set was half firing line and half advancing I'd be happy.
3. For sets with alternative headwear there needs to be enough of the alternative heads/hats so that making a whole unit with the alternative headwear is a viable option. The 7YW Prussian sets did this well and it seems that the surplus hats were very useful to people for conversions.
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Post by steve on Nov 7, 2017 17:50:14 GMT
Hi hat I think people are really happy with the drawings & the variety of having interchangeable heads & other bits ,the original plans look pretty good & i think I would have to buy at least four boxes of them to try out all the permeations on offer. The Hungarian Knots on the trousers seems a good idea though & we also need the Austrian restocks asap to keep us going until the new sets arrive pretty please.
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Post by Edwardian on Nov 7, 2017 18:00:33 GMT
A few general observations for any future Napoleonic sets: !. MAC is best. 2. For the action set, equal numbers of standing firing and loading figures please. My favourite figure is advancing with bayonet at the low port but I liked the way the Prussian Landwehr set also had advancing figures with higher pitched bayonets for the second rank. Again equal numbers. If an action set was half firing line and half advancing I'd be happy. 3. For sets with alternative headwear there needs to be enough of the alternative heads/hats so that making a whole unit with the alternative headwear is a viable option. The 7YW Prussian sets did this well and it seems that the surplus hats were very useful to people for conversions.
Very sensible points. I agree.
Please keep all 3 head options and enough of each.
For me, it is the existence of a marching set that really determines whether or not I would consider a new army. I would certainly now consider an Austrian army - if the 1808-1812 French line are released and the Chasseurs marching and command are re-released.
For preference, the re-stock programme would ensure the complementary Austrian sets were available at the same time as the new infantry sets.
I'm afraid I'm not in favour of mixing Hungarian and German leg features!
Bravo. Produce marching sets, command and some action poses (for a skirmish line) and I will start a new army! Every time!
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 7, 2017 19:31:27 GMT
Keep the suggestions coming! This set will be a MAC set. There is the option of making the figures with one headwear on or all separate headwear, however this option will lead to less figures or more expense since it will be a larger sprue.
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Post by John the Red on Nov 7, 2017 19:39:26 GMT
Hi. As with the 7YW Austrians I m really pleased to see progress and will buy when available. I suggest MAC format and multiple heads
A re release of the Grenzers provides source for Hungarian foot and likewise please put out the Grenadiers and Landwehr to make it complete.
I look forward
Cheers
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 7, 2017 22:51:15 GMT
...and please suggest some possible bonus figures.
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Post by richard on Nov 7, 2017 23:24:46 GMT
Good stuff Hat, enjoying this sudden found enthusiasm for updates!
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Post by Brian on Nov 8, 2017 0:43:03 GMT
Yes the Austrian's are coming, Napoleon's worst nightmare just has he had almost conquered mainland Europe those pesky Austrian's are back again. Just a few quick questions Mr Hat Admin, 1. Are these for Crowdfunding or normal E number release? 2. (True or False Round) Are these to be made in 1/72 scale? 3. (Picture Round) Will you be working from these 2009 Masters www.hat.com/Prev/Austrian/Austrian.html4. How many Heads do you think we can have on the sprue? I would suggest Helmets on figure bodies and enough Shako's for each soldier on Sprue or vice versa and 1 Grenadier Fur Cap on sprue 5. (Bonus Round) How many Bonus figure? 6. (Bonus Question) Instead of the usual suggestions of Sapper, Doctor, Officers etc, Can we Have Austrian's in Hungarian style uniform 1 Marching, 1 Shooting, 1 Advancing and 1 Officer? The Star Prize is a speed boat (but only if you live on 27th floor of a tower block 200 miles from the sea).
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 8, 2017 1:00:20 GMT
1. Are these for Crowdfunding or normal E number release? - Probably CF. 2. (True or False Round) Are these to be made in 1/72 scale? - T 3. (Picture Round) Will you be working from these 2009 Masters www.hat.com/Prev/Austrian/Austrian.html - Y 4. How many Heads do you think we can have on the sprue? I would suggest Helmets on figure bodies and enough Shako's for each soldier on Sprue or vice versa and 1 Grenadier Fur Cap on sprue - want suggestions 5. (Bonus Round) How many Bonus figure? - want suggestions 6. (Bonus Question) Instead of the usual suggestions of Sapper, Doctor, Officers etc, Can we Have Austrian's in Hungarian style uniform 1 Marching, 1 Shooting, 1 Advancing and 1 Officer? - want suggestions!
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Post by Edwardian on Nov 8, 2017 7:22:21 GMT
Yes the Austrian's are coming, Napoleon's worst nightmare just has he had almost conquered mainland Europe those pesky Austrian's are back again. Just a few quick questions Mr Hat Admin, 1. Are these for Crowdfunding or normal E number release? 2. (True or False Round) Are these to be made in 1/72 scale? 3. (Picture Round) Will you be working from these 2009 Masters www.hat.com/Prev/Austrian/Austrian.html4. How many Heads do you think we can have on the sprue? I would suggest Helmets on figure bodies and enough Shako's for each soldier on Sprue or vice versa and 1 Grenadier Fur Cap on sprue 5. (Bonus Round) How many Bonus figure? 6. (Bonus Question) Instead of the usual suggestions of Sapper, Doctor, Officers etc, Can we Have Austrian's in Hungarian style uniform 1 Marching, 1 Shooting, 1 Advancing and 1 Officer? The Star Prize is a speed boat (but only if you live on 27th floor of a tower block 200 miles from the sea).
"6. (Bonus Question) Instead of the usual suggestions of Sapper, Doctor, Officers etc, Can we Have Austrian's in Hungarian style uniform 1 Marching, 1 Shooting, 1 Advancing and 1 Officer"
I was about to suggest this: Hungarian figures exactly as suggested.
The Grenadier head issue in some part depends upon whether the Austrian Grenadier set would be re-released in sufficient numbers at the same time, however, I would prefer the option of having a reasonable number of Grenadier heads in the new set. This need not be a full set; how about including Grenadier heads in proportion to the numbers of Grenadiers in Austrian formations?
I think it is fine to have heads included on the figures, and fine if these are helmets, provided that you include sufficient alternative heads (in this case shakos) to replace all the heads.
As an aside, I understand that 1809 saw some units still in helmets. if so, a nice mix could be achieved with this set.
Finally, if HaT could ensure stocks of their other Austrian sets were available, including the Grenadier, Grenzer and Landwehr sets that appear to be currently unavailable, that would no doubt help sales of the new infantry set.
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 8, 2017 7:37:02 GMT
Finally, if HaT could ensure stocks of their other Austrian sets were available, including the Grenadier, Grenzer and Landwehr sets that appear to be currently unavailable, that would no doubt help sales of the new infantry set. On the restock list...
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Post by mateus on Nov 8, 2017 11:42:48 GMT
I'm very happy to see this project being brought back to light! Be sure I'll be one of the contributors to this crowdfunding!.
First, awesome set, lots of options. Very Very nice to see you've included a color bearer. I'd suggest a couple per box. A single box has enough models to make up more than one unit, so in the end if you're like me that buys a bunch to arrange them into several battallions, with a single standard per box you end up with less than one flag per unit. Additionally, spare color bearers are useful to add to previous units we might have from kits that didn't offer one, such as the previous Hat Austrian infantry in shakos.
I don't see the need to add hungarians to this set. They are easily conversible from the Grenzer set. As long as this set is available - and you already made it clear they're coming back in stock - then I see no need to add them here. Same would apply to the grenadier heads, though, in this case, I can see a definite use for such heads as conversion bits to be used to turn the grenzer kit into hungarian grenadiers, so please include a bunch of those grenadiers heads, yes!
Bonus figures: sappers, flutes, medics - always nice! But I'd also like to see a general and ADC added to each future napoleonic set. These are rare in the 1/72 market, and with a couple command models on each new set, one could slowly build up their own collection of hearquarters. Unless Hat decides to produce dedicated kits of Command figures, with enough variation of generals, ADC's, their mounts, etc., such as we had on the now OOP HaT napoleonic general sets.
I'd prefer if the models don't come with a default headwear. First, there is the risk of us not cutting it off cleanly enough to replace by one of the options provided. Second, if they are already produced to be interchangeable, then Hat can work this out to make sure all options sit nicely enough on the head gap, hopefully with no filling/cutting need from our part. The head is such a focal point on the model, if the headwear doesn't fit nicely, it'll become too apparent.
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